Tartanians

[DonCorazon]

I actually find MP a blast, its just that the games take so long that as a noob, it takes you 3 months to realize that, while you may be one of the leaders in terms of provinces, gems, and research, you may actually have zero chance to win.

Nevertheless, I get a lot of enjoyment out of building my kingdom and humorously role-playing my nation in MP, but it is comically tragic when, as happened to me in Urapara, suddenly a single golem decked out in tons of gear appears and proceeds from province to province, obliterating huge armies with ease and wiping out all the progress that was achieved over the months.

Even still, I find SP much drier / less thoughtful and can rarely finish a game.

The ideal for me is like chess, its the most fun when played with someone around your same level. If only there were Dominions ratings for players....

[Zeldor]

DonCorazon:

Now you would be able to get Iron Golem and put gear on him and he could surely make a nice fight with my Golem

[Saxon]

NTJedi,

Not sure more anti-undead spells are really a good idea. Ermor already has enough problems and any such spells will see a wider application against undead.

The insanity idea is fun though, I like that.

LingChih,

Sorry about the spelling. Strangely, many of the words in the game do not come up in spell check and most of my posts are made while �working for a living� so I don�t have the manual handy.

[Lingchih]

Hehe. No prob. I will just have to remember in the future, when I search for this stuff, that I might need to search for Tartanians as well.

[Darkstone]

Or you could just search under Tartarians, and search the body of posts as well.

[ComTrav]

There, this I think would show up in a search for what you'd be looking for, without having to go through all the extra posts you'd get from a subject search.

[Endoperez]

Now that I posted this reply with the subject changed, even title search should show this thread.

In other news, there are no tartar-tartans in Dominions.

EDIT: I was late, is seems.

[Twan]

DonCorazon said:
I actually find MP a blast, its just that the games take so long that as a noob, it takes you 3 months to realize that, while you may be one of the leaders in terms of provinces, gems, and research, you may actually have zero chance to win.

IMO it's never the case. If you are first in research you have lots of mages, so you can win even if you have missed the usual SC/artefact based strats. Mages and an higher research than your opponents are the best counters against anything.

You just have to equip well your mages to resist against the kind of mass destruction spells or artefacts your ennemies can use, and script them to cast anti-SC spells (slaying/enslave/paralysis spells if their MR is not too high, or unresistable fatigue or dammage against the unit type -a tartarian and all the undead chaff surrounding him may be killed by a dozen of mages casting wither bones ie -or even solar rays if he is the only target-)

The gems and army size stats are the most misleading ones as magical income (clams etc) don't appear, and army size count an overpowered SC just as one size 6 unit. But if you are first in research (and to a less extent provinces, income) you usually have good chances to win.

[Endoperez]

You need some kind of a save-or-die spell, though. Soul Slay, Petrify, Charm, something. That, or mages who can cast more AN damage spells than your opponent can stack resistances, and perhaps thugs in the event he does manage to get all resistances: Thunder Strike, Frozen Heart, Incinerate and a thug(s) with high-damage AP weapon would probably be enough.

[thejeff]

How do you survive long enough (and expand and get enough gems and gold to recruit mages to research) to get to Construction 8 without researching anything else?

No summons, your mages are almost useless on the battlefield. Some nations could get by just equipping their thug-like recruitables, though they couldn't self-buff. Most would have to rely on normal troops without mage support, and I suppose a pretender SC. Who can't be optimized as an SC since you need him to cover whatever paths you don't have natively for the Chalice and Tartarians.
And you've then got to go to Conjuration 9 to summon Tartarians.

Sure, if you do you'll be in good shape for the end game, but aren't they usually serious wars long before then? Or is this a turtle strategy? Whoever hides without fighting and gets away with it wins?