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Old April 3rd, 2008, 10:18 PM
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I'm sorry, but I think you're a bit off there. Guardian of Forever will not be in the film. Harlan Ellison owns the rights to the character and is not gonna let it be in the film without all due royalties.

Here's a vid, he's in classic form here for the WGA strike. NSFW for langauge. Star Trek relevant parts start at 1:30 roughly

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Old April 4th, 2008, 05:03 AM
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Hey you know how in "City on the edge of forever" they find the Guardian amongst a city filled with ruins (well yes budget constraints limited it somewhat). That's because someone doesn't know ruins from the phrase "A city covered in runes"

just in case you didn't know that.

also I read Harlan Ellison wrote some nice Star Wars novels

(no not really, but try complimenting him on them)
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I'm sorry, but I think you're a bit off there. Guardian of Forever will not be in the film. Harlan Ellison owns the rights to the character and is not gonna let it be in the film without all due royalties.

Thanks, but I am just reporting whats been posted on the net. And remember, there is no such thing as exclusive rights when it comes to Star Trek ownership and licensing. Interesting video though.
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Actually, the legal aspect of character ownership on TV was very different in the 60's and 70's. Writers often got to keep overall ownership of one-time characters to earn residuals if the studio reused the characters in later productions.

Harlan Ellison owns the characters he created for that episode of star trek in their filmed appearances meaning any filmed appearance done for profit must kick him some money.

Theodore Sturgeon owns the rights to T'Pau character and was originally to be a main character on Enterprise, but due to legal concerns (royalties) the character was turned into T'Pol and the T'Pau character was recycled for a one-time appearance on Enterprise and background mentions in previous series.
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Well no matter, filming started last year so if there was a "issue" then it would have already been resolved. And who knows, this whole plot thing could just be some gimmick to throw people off. A great joke on us. More info will come out later and then we will know for sure.
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I hope it's not like the remake of "War of the Worlds" where the aliens lost again!!!!
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