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April 12th, 2008, 09:31 AM
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Ed Kolis said: Oh yeah, and then there was the one (though I don't think this was Asimov) where a scouting party of some feline looking aliens invaded the earth, landing their starship... and out came a bunch of these aliens dressed in chainmail, wielding swords, and anxious more than anything to use an outhouse... when they were surrounded by humans with machine guns and grenades, they quickly surrendered, as no one but humans had thought to develop more than the most primitive of weapons, armor, or latrines! Everyone else had focused their research first into bare-bones life support technology and then into propulsion; the felines and the humans were apparently the only two aggressive races in the galaxy, and since the humans never happened upon spaceflight while the felines did ages ago, the felines had plenty of time to expand their empire without much difficulty, not needing more than primitive weapons or waste disposal (hey, space is a big trash can!), while the humans needed to fight each other for room on the earth!
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I remember that story, definitely not Asimov, but my Google fu is failing me to come up with the correct author. The title was something like "The Road Less Travelled" (Frost's famous poem was quoted towards the end), the invading aliens were ursine, not feline, and used black powder muskets. The story was a sequel to another where humanity had used the captured FTL tech to dismantle the ursine empire; the first story was about our first encounter with another species that followed our tech path rather than the "normal" focus on the FTL drive, which most species discovered during their Iron Age. (There was mention of one species who found it during their Bronze Age.) Both stories were published in Analog.
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April 12th, 2008, 09:38 AM
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That seems...Rather improbable.
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April 12th, 2008, 11:04 AM
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I have a book where an alien empire sends a scout to land in medieval England. They do the big "tremble at the might of our energy weapons bit" before being cut down by arrow fire. The Knights, and their men at arms, then take the ship and conquer the aliens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_High_Crusade
I have the 2003 edition.
My favourite bit is right at the end when they encounter humanity again and ask the captain if the Holy Land is free of the pagans. The captain, a loyal servant of the Israeli empire, says yes it is.
I didn't know there was a movie, and I was interested in seeing it, that is until I realised it was German. I have seen exactly two German fantasy comedies, one about the 7 dwarfs, whose favourite game is beating themselves with wood, and a Star Trek spoof where the Spock character wears a pink uniform and gets worse after that. German humour escapes me.
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April 12th, 2008, 11:06 AM
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Think I read that book. Rather improbable, too. Most people who practice war would be good at it.
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April 12th, 2008, 02:01 PM
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Not when the opposition doesn't also practice war - where's the arms race when your enemies usually just keel over and surrender, as is the case in both those stories? It's not really war in that sense, more like harvesting of crops 
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April 13th, 2008, 04:40 AM
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capnq said: I remember that story, definitely not Asimov, but my Google fu is failing me to come up with the correct author.
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Eureka!
"The Road Not Taken", by Harry Turtledove, prequel to "Herbig-Haro" by "Eric Iverson".
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April 13th, 2008, 06:23 AM
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I had trouble tracking down that one. I'm used to associating Turtledove with alternate history, along with series that continue long past my patience, and so naturally tried to track it down at Uchronia. Not helped by the fact that the term "the road not taken" is used quite alot in alternate history. It sounds like a story I'd like to read. I thought the name Eric Iverson sounded familiar. It's one of Turtledove's psuedonyms I think.
In a like vein is Turtledove's series where Aliens invade earth because they sent a probe 800 years ago, and how much could a race grow in a mere 800 years?. Personally the first trilogy was good, the second series rode the fame of the first in my opinion, and the finale went absolutely nowhere, in a narrative sense. I kept expecting something to actually happen, but no at the last page I went "What the?" when I realised it was finished.
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