Anonymous Rituals and NAPs

[LDiCesare]

To me, suffering from a sneaky ritual which can only be cast by someone with whom there's a NAP means the NAP is broken but I'd first contact (pm/mail/whatever) the person and get things clear. I'd probably attack immediately if the spell was preparation for an attack, or ask for repairs and attack if that's not accepted.

[meister_miagi]

If I was 100% sure of who cast the ritual I would probably consider the NAP to be obsolete. But in the case Xietor described, casting 40 rain of toads isn't being sneaky, that's clearly an act of war.

[Sombre]

This thread has shown me a new tactic. If you want to break a NAP and surprise attack someone all you have to do is claim they were hitting you with anonymous spells. You send them a message saying "You are spamming ___ on me, it can't be anyone else, prepare to die!" and attack them. They can't prove they weren't and you can claim they're lying when they rationally try to blame someone else. Additionally anyone they blame will turn on them, because they know they didn't do it. No-one did of course, since it's all made up.

You can make this even more convincing and effective by posting about it on the forum too, ranting about them being sneaky traitors for spelling you.

[cleveland]

Sombre said:
This thread has shown me a new tactic. If you want to break a NAP and surprise attack someone all you have to do is claim they were hitting you with anonymous spells. You send them a message saying "You are spamming ___ on me, it can't be anyone else, prepare to die!" and attack them. They can't prove they weren't and you can claim they're lying when they rationally try to blame someone else. Additionally anyone they blame will turn on them, because they know they didn't do it. No-one did of course, since it's all made up.

You can make this even more convincing and effective by posting about it on the forum too, ranting about them being sneaky traitors for spelling you.

Brilliant, really.

Same with spying, to a more limited degree, but more applicable to the early-game, when reputations are still undetermined. If you're NAP buddy has access to spies, scream "HE'S INSTILLING UPRISINGS IN MY CAPITAL!!! TREACHERY!!!"

Hilarity ensues.

[DonCorazon]

Sombre said:
This thread has shown me a new tactic. If you want to break a NAP and surprise attack someone all you have to do is claim they were hitting you with anonymous spells. You send them a message saying "You are spamming ___ on me, it can't be anyone else, prepare to die!" and attack them. They can't prove they weren't and you can claim they're lying when they rationally try to blame someone else. Additionally anyone they blame will turn on them, because they know they didn't do it. No-one did of course, since it's all made up.

You can make this even more convincing and effective by posting about it on the forum too, ranting about them being sneaky traitors for spelling you.

Hmm...isn't this the George Bush go to war strategy?

[Jazzepi]

DonCorazon said:

Hmm...isn't this the George Bush go to war strategy?

No, that would involve something like this.

"We attacked because they were stockpiling death gems that could potentially be used for ***BLACK DEATH*** to wipe out our capitol!!1!11!1111"

Jazzepi

[LDiCesare]

I wonder if Machiavel would find it worth casting a ritual against one of his provinces (where someone else hopefully has a scout xho could see the spell) to then blame it on NAP-partner and attack it?

[moderation]

Well there is one way of providing proof that someone is casting remotes at you, but unfortunately that would require posting a copy of your turn file for others to look at.