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May 12th, 2008, 08:42 AM
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Re: Warning! Do NOT apply XP SP 3!
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Xrati said: This just might be Micro$oft's way of sabotaging XP so it will make Vista look better!
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"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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Spectarofdeath said: Don't want to start any kind of flame war or anything but like AgentZero I've noticed alot that anytime someone has a PC problem the first cause is M$ and the 2nd is user error.
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Microsoft's security chief once stated at a developer's conference that "half of all crashes in Windows are caused not by Microsoft code, but third-party code". This was interpreted on Slashdot as Microsoft admitting that half of Windows' crashes were their fault. 
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May 12th, 2008, 12:27 PM
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Re: Warning! Do NOT apply XP SP 3!
capnq, we all know about "Murphy's Laws!" My favorite is,
Nothing can be made foolproof, because fools are very ingenious!
Now for reality, business makes money by selling product. If everyone sits there with XP on their computer, Micro$oft won't make any money. If they come out with a new OS (say like Vi$ta) and nobody likes it, why not 'taint' your old product to make everyone think that your new one is better?
If you're a third party software producer and your software doesn't work on the SP3, then you should be the one to fix it! UNLESS the SP3 problem was something that was created by Micro$oft, then they should fix it.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!! 
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May 12th, 2008, 02:16 PM
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Re: Warning! Do NOT apply XP SP 3!
*shakes head*
The vast majority of Windows licenses come bundled with new PCs. They could care less about trying to convince people to upgrade current machines from XP to Vista. Even new machines sold with XP are still making MS as much money.
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May 12th, 2008, 03:40 PM
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Re: Warning! Do NOT apply XP SP 3!
How would you uninstall SP3?
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May 12th, 2008, 04:12 PM
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Re: Warning! Do NOT apply XP SP 3!
You should be able to remove it via the Add/Remove programs option in the Control Panel.
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May 12th, 2008, 04:55 PM
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Re: Warning! Do NOT apply XP SP 3!
Thanks.
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May 12th, 2008, 05:54 PM
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Re: Warning! Do NOT apply XP SP 3!
Nope, still glitches on the virusscan.
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May 13th, 2008, 02:47 AM
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Re: Warning! Do NOT apply XP SP 3!
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Fyron said:
*shakes head*
The vast majority of Windows licenses come bundled with new PCs. They could care less about trying to convince people to upgrade current machines from XP to Vista. Even new machines sold with XP are still making MS as much money.
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And since as of June, every Dell sold with an XP license will count as a Vista sale for Microsoft, they've even got the "Your old OS is selling better than your new OS" PR angle covered. Ingenious. Although I wouldn't be my usual pedantic self if I didn't point out the ambiguity of your second statement. If they could care less, then they do care, but how much? Do they care a great deal? Or do they care very little, but still have a little leeway in case they need to care less at some point in the future? 
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May 13th, 2008, 03:59 AM
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Re: Warning! Do NOT apply XP SP 3!
They do have some leeway, since at some point they'll care more about higher rates of Vista adoption than just the income. 
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May 13th, 2008, 07:54 AM
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Re: Warning! Do NOT apply XP SP 3!
lol, a bad workman always blames his tools. It's a crooked saw, the head on the hammer causes the nails to bend, the joints don't line up when I use the jointer... etc etc...
Same thing with Microsoft Windows, it's always Microsoft's fault.
I have not had problems with Windows ever since installing Win XP Home. My brother 'Always has problems'.. Windows is a piece of crap, nothing works, blah blah blah.. geeze David why is it your computer always runs smoothly?.. want proof that the END USER IS THE PROBLEM? My bro has 2 all new brand spanking whoop-*** speed demon computers one Desktop (XP Home) and one laptop with Vista. His computer takes a good 7-8 min to boot up, the laptop like 1 min. (my comp is booted in 20 seconds)
My Bro is a software gadget nut, anything that can 'Enhance the performance of his PC' through software is installed. I try to tell him the difference between the left and right side of the taskbar (left-side being one click shortcuts and right-side being 'memory resident ready to serve instantly' programs using system resources. We both have about the same things on the left, IE, Firefox, Trillian, Quicktime, Messenger, Win Media player, and a few others.
now, on the Right side,.. hoooweeee.. I got the volume control and the nVidia display thing. My Bro has that +AV, Spam filter, Spyware scanner, 3 Emali scanners to always instantly notify him if he gets mail, Printer support (no printer connected to his comp.. we now use a network shared printer) External USB software for his cam, HD, scanner, SD card reader, a firewall, destktop icon adjust, a super duper wallpaper viewer. a weather station, an internet clock, and about a dozen other 'totally useless' crap all running at the same time. (omg believe me when I say he has no less than 28 items 'actively running' on the right side of his taskbar. all booting up and fighting for resources at the same time.)
I open windows explorer it pops open instantly. on my bro's comp it can take a good 10 seconds and his HD goes wild trying to see if any of those 'active' programs need to take action. Get this,.. he was so pissed at his comp a few years ago he bought his current one and put the old one in his closet.. when my comp died (the HD crashed beyond repair) I offered him $250 for his old 2 ghz comp in the closet. That is still the comp I am using today. He always is impressed at how fast my comp is, and he has a new dual core whoop-*** comp. that still has the same problems. I remind him that 'my speed demon comp' was once his old piece of crap junk pile sitting in his closet. About a month ago I bought a new case (nice black one) and transfered the guts from the old to the new. It's an illusionary upgrade. only a facelift as they say, but I also upgraded the memory from 1gig to 2 gig. For me there is only a slight improvement is speed of operation. but I'm happy and it only cost me like $200 ($100 for the case, $75 for the gig and 25$ for a new GPU fan)
Oh I did have a little adventure,.. my computer 'USED' to auto-login when I booted up, it does not any more,.. but that happened right after installing Lord of the Rings Online.. I suspect that when it 'Required' .NET Framework V1.0 that fubar'd things. I have since Uninstalled LotRo and .NET v1.0 (I have .NET v2.0) but even using Tweak UI to set the auto logon does not work. something deep deep inside the registry is toggled and I have no idea what or where, but I do know it has been this way ever since installing LotRo. do I blame MS? not on your life.. the makers of LotRo are the ones responsible for this. Would they help to fix the problem they caused? not on your life. the windows logon is not part of their software.. so even though they caused the problem, they are not responsible. If I talk to MS I'm sure they would say "it is not reccomended to have both v1.0 AND v2.0 of .NET Framework installed at the same time".. LoL
Anyways, that's my story, I offer it as proof that Microsoft is NOT to blame for 99% of the problems people have with their computers. but 99% of the users blame Microsoft.
Nuf said, Cheers! 
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