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		Hi ! 
I have recently discovered the window version of the Stell Panther series. So i have download it and rush the oob editor to have a look on the french unit and i have found a lot off minor/major errors for units, weapons and formations.
 
For example the Mirage 2000 have no gun (where is the DEFA canon !), RT-F1 mortar excessive range, the FR-F2 is not a 12.7 mm sniper rifle but the classique 7.62mmm (correct name are PGM or HECATE II for the .50 cal sniper rifle), AMX 50 heavy tank never used ...
 
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		Job almost done   
Now just a little problem : don't know how to attach a file    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Unit 902 is the Mirage 2000-5 version wich has the 2 DEFA 30 mm internal guns. The 2000C has them too but is not in the OOB. I suppose it's considered an air to air version and anyway you can't put all the version with all the possible loadouts for obvious reasons. The 2000D and N don't have any internal gun but could be equiped with gun pods. 
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		Some sources : 
Officials manuals of french army :
 www.5du1-11rc.fr/mediapool/59/592635/data/INF_206.pdf
INF = Infantry 
202 Infantry platoon 
203 Support platoon 
204 AT (Milan) Platoon 
206 Infantry recon platoon 
207 Snipers 
211-15 VAB HOT 
212 Infantry Company 
223 Combined Operation
 
ABC = Arme Blindée Cavalerie (Tanks, ...)
 http://www.abc.terre.defense.gouv.fr...php?rubrique22 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 I was surprised by this. I didn't suspect that some famas-felin were already fielded, but here is some evidence.    
The first soldier is wearing an US helmet and a famas that looks like a felin one.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Totally off-topic - are the French Army allowed to grow beards? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		No, not usually. But this soldier is probably from 1st or 3rd RPIMa 
(1st/3rd Marines Paratrooper Regiment), which are considered SOC (Special Operation Capable) and are in the French Army quite allowed to do whatever they want. Including the beard, use of foreign weapons (M4, G36...) and of foreign equipment.  
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		FELIN : 
 
22600 for Infantry regiments 
2801 for Tank regiments 
2480 for Arty 
3576 for engineers 
 
Total : 31445 ordered. 
 
8th RPiMA (Marine para) 
11th RAMA (Marine Arty) 
Régiment de Marche du Tchad (Marine Mech infantry) 
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