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	| View Poll Results: What do you Wish for? |  
	| Chalice |      | 12 | 25.00% |  
	| Sceptre of Dark Regency |      | 0 | 0% |  
	| Other Magic Item |      | 3 | 6.25% |  
	| Seraph |      | 10 | 20.83% |  
	| Pretender/God |      | 2 | 4.17% |  
	| Other Unit (Mandaha for example) |      | 2 | 4.17% |  
	| Gems |      | 11 | 22.92% |  
	| Blood Slaves |      | 2 | 4.17% |  
	| Other, none magic item, none unit effect (dominion, gold etc..) |      | 6 | 12.50% |  
	
 
 
	
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				May 16th, 2008, 04:46 AM
			
			
			
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				 Wish Upon A Star 
 Okay, whats the most popular wish? |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 16th, 2008, 04:58 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Wish Upon A Star 
 Can you add "Yes, if all nations get good national summons" for seraph question? |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 16th, 2008, 08:04 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Wish Upon A Star 
 For me the uniqueness of all the national spells is cool and somehow special. I would like much more such spells!
 
 In case of seraph, this uniqueness never really existed.
 
 So why do so many players like it, that wishing for national summon spells is possible?
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				May 16th, 2008, 08:28 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Wish Upon A Star 
 Forget removing the Seraph, how about adding something else like it? Similar in power level, but different in abilities? Like a Vanth or something, I don't know. |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 16th, 2008, 08:29 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Wish Upon A Star 
 My favorite wish was for the Orb of Atlantis when someone was crossing a sea to attack me, so I answered "other item".
 I said "no" for seraphs, but as well it's only as long endgame national summons are not available for all nations (or at least non unique good SCs chassis in all paths).
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				May 16th, 2008, 04:05 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Wish Upon A Star 
 How about if you could wish for any unit (if one is in the world somewhere you get a random one from the world itself) but there is a MR contest to see if it shows up subservient or hostile, and maybe a random chance whether a hostile unit shows up to attack your province, or as an assassination-type encounter? 
For thematic/variety purposes, there could be positive modifiers if the summoned unit is the same type as the caster (i.e. demon/undead/size, and/or blood/death/nature/water/air give bonuses to demons/undead/animals/aquatics/fliers respectively) and some modifiers for other types (mindless are easier, horrors are hard or impossible, maybe a minus for size...). Ok, I like detailed and uncertain mechanics.   |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 16th, 2008, 04:09 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Wish Upon A Star 
 Solution: Add another unit with the same name as the unit you want to become unwishable, but a lower unit number and give that unit the same behaviour as the uber horrors went wished for. (could be done by placing it instead of the current unit and then moving the current unit to a new, later, number)
 EDIT: To clarify, this is a solution for how KO can easily make that unit unwishable and in a somewhat thematic manner.
 
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				 Re: Wish Upon A Star 
 Ya, you get a pretty peasant girl named Seraphina.   |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 16th, 2008, 04:15 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Wish Upon A Star 
 I always wish for a bog beast plushie and never got one. But I won't give up. But to be honest, the single time I made it that far in a game, that I was able to cast wish, I wished thrice for blood slaves. After that, Grand Theft Chalice began. |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 16th, 2008, 06:34 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Wish Upon A Star 
 Armageddon is the only proper wish, especially with all the dang liberal peace and love types outlawing the other devastation spells. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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