Who likes a scout as first prophet?

[JimMorrison]

What about an assassin, such as Abysia starts with? I have actually not used Ritual of Rebirth ever, so I wonder what the stats are for the mummy, and if it would be worth using on a high quality assassin?

Also, I had been thinking the scout might make an excellent prophet for Arco, since he can cause early Dom spread to give you long lasting intel via scrying.

Though anymore, I almost exclusively do the initial commander. I don't like patrolling my capital, I'd rather have someone Smite spamming from turn 2 on, than kill my loyal subjects for a few troops that I don't have the resources to produce anyway.

[Micah]

I usually go for the commander so my scout can go do something useful instead of strapping himself to the commander's side and following him around. I generally don't do a first turn patrol though. That's purely personal preference.

What is NOT personal preference is that making an H3 priest into a prophet is a trap. Word of power pretty much sucks compared to smite, and it's going to take a while before you have enough troops so that you'll need fanaticism over a few Sermons. Thus, having 2 H3 priests (one of them a junk unit you made your prophet and the other one the H3 chassis you would have used) is going to be more useful than one H4 priest in the vast majority of situations, especially early-game. Add on the opportunity cost of having to wait to actually recruit your H3 priest chassis and you have a clear loser of a strategy.

[Taqwus]

I've had assassin prophets, but bear in mind that I play SP, and not only do I play SP, but I play it to amuse myself, not to win as efficiently as possible. I've occasionally made prophets out of Skeptics, Hydras et al simply because I thought it was funny.

[Wick]

JimMorrison said:
What about an assassin, such as Abysia starts with? I have actually not used Ritual of Rebirth ever, so I wonder what the stats are for the mummy, and if it would be worth using on a high quality assassin?

In this case the important stat is that a mummy is not an assassin, or even stealthy.

[JimMorrison]

Wick said:

In this case the important stat is that a mummy is not an assassin, or even stealthy.

So..... I feel as if I'm missing something. Does this mummy lose all abilities of its former self? What is the purpose of ever using the spell? .....

[MaxWilson]

He keeps the magic paths and heroic abilities, and afflictions. I think that's it but he might also keep modifiers such as bonuses from having wished for power. Since he keeps magic paths, you can re-prophetize a resurrected prophet and he gains another +1 Holy Levels, which is the only way you can get an H9 priest in the game outside of communions.

-Max

[JimMorrison]

Ouch, seems like the afflictions would usually be the deal breaker there..... Now I want to look for an opportunity to actually use the spell, I'm intrigued. And a bit annoyed that your assassin can't do his job once he's visited the land of the dead, he should be even stealthier now, he doesn't have to breathe! Though, he might weeze a bit, if the movies are accurate.....

[Saulot]

Also, larger creatures become giant mummies, with 68 hitpoints. Nothing to scoff at.

[Endoperez]

JimMorrison said:
Ouch, seems like the afflictions would usually be the deal breaker there..... Now I want to look for an opportunity to actually use the spell, I'm intrigued. And a bit annoyed that your assassin can't do his job once he's visited the land of the dead, he should be even stealthier now, he doesn't have to breathe! Though, he might weeze a bit, if the movies are accurate.....

Special abilities are tied to unit type. Because there aren't mummies for all sizes and all possible combinations of special powers, the reborn mummy loses its special powers.

As was said, you can get a mage back that way, or transform a large creature into a big mummy.

[Tuidjy]

> There really isn't any point of prophetizing Sidhe lords, apart from arrow fend
> and mistform, bless should be the first spell any sidhe lords cast

I disagree. The +2 attack/defense bonus from being a prophet is not negligible.
And the extra hit points can be handy as well.