Ich's Games

Lingchih · #1 June 8th, 2008, 06:15 AM

I would doubt that lch's games get going again. They were hosted on Gandalf's server, and Gandalf does not seem too interested in the games these days.

I was in a very interesting game myself hosted by lch, but I have given up on it. Even if the server came back up, it would be a monumental task to get everyone back into the game.

I have moved on to other games. This has happened to me so often (through one cause or another), that I don't even worry about it anymore. I just move on.

Meglobob · #2 June 8th, 2008, 06:38 AM

I was not involved in any of Ich's/Gandalfs game but this has happened a couple of times to me.

Just to set the record straight, it is a rare occurance that Dom3 MP games do not get completed. I would say about 1 in 10 games are effected this way. Its just bad luck really in the real world effecting the host.

Tyrant · #3 June 8th, 2008, 04:38 PM

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Just to set the record straight, it is a rare occurrence that Dom3 MP games do not get completed. I would say about 1 in 10 games are effected this way. Its just bad luck really in the real world effecting the host.

It ain't that rare, you've either been careful about your choice of hosts or lucky. It puts players in a bad spot- on the one hand it sucks to get really into a game and then have it poof on you, on the other hand , a host is always doing you a favor ( a pretty big one IMO) and it's just not right to give them [censored] about it under just about any circumstances. That said, i'll go ahead and speak ill of the departed 'cause i don't think we will be seeing Zachariah anymore- all three of his game i was in collapsed and he never once responded to my messages. I was annoyed. In contrast Ich/GP are long time pillars of our community, they have done me many favors, i am grateful , and i will not blame or rebuke them if they are unable or unwilling to continue doing me favors.

I would not want to be associated with any negative method of dealing with this("Hall of Shame"), but an update of the host sticky in the MP section that listed the currently active proven hosts might be a good way of letting newbies know who's likely to be a solid host might be helpful. Given the difficulty of getting into this game it's important to do what we can to make sure we don't scare off fresh blood. Having your first MP game collapse could very easily turn you off permanently.

JimMorrison · #4 June 8th, 2008, 04:53 PM

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...That said, i'll go ahead and speak ill of the departed 'cause i don't think we will be seeing Zachariah anymore- all three of his game i was in collapsed and he never once responded to my messages...

This is what I'm talking about. The guy is a member of the community for over 4 years, is an active game host, and until the day of his disappearance, a rather active forum member. The guy could be dead or in a coma right now, and because of whatever personal catastrophe ended his long-standing record of reliability, people seem pretty eager to stomp on his integrity.

I've been here 3 weeks or so, if I was hosting a game and bailed, all I could expect is "wow, what a flake". After 4 years, I would hope for better.

Tyrant · #5 June 8th, 2008, 08:21 PM

Now wait a minute here Jum, first and foremost, i did not "stomp on his integrity", I said i was annoyed. Second, Zach's games did not all disappear at once due to some sort of emergency, they withered away one by one 'cause he pretty much abandoned them and started new ones. Third, Zach is not dead and if he was ever in a coma it did not last long and he recovered. (http://www.evilzombies.com) Since you have only been here three weeks, may i ask how you have determined that he was "a rather active forum member" or evaluated his record of reliability?

Sombre · #6 June 8th, 2008, 08:33 PM

Why are you linking to the 'evil zombies' website?

Also, are they related to 'bomb the bass' who worked with the Bitmap Bros?

Tyrant · #7 June 8th, 2008, 08:38 PM

That is Zach's fine website which has been in operation all along, from which i deduce that he has neither died nor fallen into a coma.

I have no idea what your second question means.

JimMorrison · #8 June 9th, 2008, 02:48 AM

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Now wait a minute here Jum, first and foremost, i did not "stomp on his integrity", I said i was annoyed. Second, Zach's games did not all disappear at once due to some sort of emergency, they withered away one by one 'cause he pretty much abandoned them and started new ones. Third, Zach is not dead and if he was ever in a coma it did not last long and he recovered. (http://www.evilzombies.com) Since you have only been here three weeks, may i ask how you have determined that he was "a rather active forum member" or evaluated his record of reliability?

Jum?

Anyway, I'm sorry, I see a lot of people online act toward and speak of others as if they weren't real people, and that their lives revolve around whatever service they are providing for just the satisfaction of providing the service. Maybe I'm just still a little raw after seeing the whole thing with Edi last week.

Anyway, as far as Zach goes, I was extrapolating from the information presented. It was stated that he had hosted a number of games reliably, before he "fell off the face of the earth". I think looked up his user name on these forums, and saw that he was averaging 1-2 posts a day for the week or so prior to the last of his posts. This seemed to illustrate to me someone who wanted and enjoyed their involvement here. I reasoned if he would be so active (and some spoke well of him, only people were mad because he was gone), and quit rather abruptly without any notice, that it might have been out of his control, and thus -potentially- a more than valid reason for nonexistence (death is pretty valid >.>).

Anyway, I feel my point is rather valid, but I apologize, as it seems that it didn't need to be made. <3

SsSam · #9 June 9th, 2008, 10:30 AM

No response from either Gandalf or Ich.
I'm guessing these are dead but would like some word.

WraithLord · #10 June 8th, 2008, 06:42 AM

I've also recently had four games that "exploded" and were never finished b/c of one thing or another that happened to the host. The worst case was Fearsome Legions, in which the host Zachariah simply vanished at the most exciting moment in the game.

No offense intended for the possible great hosts out there but I've since learned to trust only llamaserver and Pasha. Mostly b/c my personal experience with some specific other hosts was bad (i.e. exploded games).

I think the MP community needs to have a hosts hall of fame (and shame) where hosts are measured by the number of games they actually hosted to the end. The hall should be used to help players make an educated decision regarding which host they'll entrust with their valuable time and effort playing a dominions game. The hall should by no means be used to flame or slander hosts. The hosts are volunteering their time for the benefit of players and IMO should be respected for that.