.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
The Star and the Crescent- Save $9.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 3: The Awakening

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old July 28th, 2008, 12:17 AM

konming konming is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 525
Thanks: 17
Thanked 17 Times in 10 Posts
konming is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Repel is broken.

Parry 8 or 9 is bigger than a tower shield and should protect someone from all arrows of one direction, which is the majority of cases in dominions battles. One arrow or 20 arrows does not make a difference, they all hit the shield. Now shooting from different directions, OTOH, is another question.

More troublesome, is that shield bonus applied to all melee. If you block one attack, or attack from one direction, you are unlikely to use shield on other attacks.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old July 28th, 2008, 02:13 AM

Renojustin Renojustin is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Reno, Nevada
Posts: 605
Thanks: 11
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Renojustin is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Repel is broken.

Melee attacks are different in that they reduce Defense by 2 for each additional attack, thereby fulfilling a more realistic model. So I think that everyone is happy with that.
__________________
Sauromatia: Lawful Evil
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old July 28th, 2008, 05:00 AM

calmon calmon is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Berlin, Germany
Posts: 790
Thanks: 7
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
calmon is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Repel is broken.

Well i don't think its logical just to have a big shield to be protected from all arrows regardless the shield holder is a simple comander or a hero. You can even totally surrounded by enemies and they miss you.

Thats the reason why long range weapons are irrevelant (besides some autoeffect weapons) in lategame.

I wished more dependencies to the abilities of the bearer. A high precision shooter should be able to hit even a shielded target, but precision helps only to hit a special field but you still automiss (99,999%) a high parry target.

The shield parry value should also be modified by a bearer ability (maybe defence?) to reflect heroic or just dumb reactions. Not every 30 gold commander is a 300 hero!

So enough offtopic
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old July 28th, 2008, 06:05 AM

Agema Agema is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 792
Thanks: 28
Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts
Agema is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Repel is broken.

I noticed this in one of the Worthy Heroes games where my opponent cast a swarm against Beowulf, and all the dragonflies went Pop!

Nevertheless, I've also seen swarm cast effectively in MP games where it has caused a lot of disruption to an army. There may be a bug here, but Swarm has not been rendered useless.

As for deflecting 68 million arrows, I could draw attention to, say, the film Hero. It's not entirely out of character with legendary achievement.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old July 28th, 2008, 07:01 AM

Renojustin Renojustin is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Reno, Nevada
Posts: 605
Thanks: 11
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Renojustin is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Repel is broken.

Hmmm, I guess you didn't watch that one all the way through.
__________________
Sauromatia: Lawful Evil
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old July 28th, 2008, 07:19 AM

Agema Agema is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 792
Thanks: 28
Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts
Agema is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Repel is broken.

[spoilers within for the film Hero]


The assassin refuses to kill the emperor because he is persuaded that the emperor is the best hope for China and will bring peace and rule fairly by law. Consequently, he (and the emperor) believes the emperor must enforce the law and execute him for the attempted assassination: he dies willingly for his belief in justice and the emperor.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old July 28th, 2008, 07:24 AM

Renojustin Renojustin is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Reno, Nevada
Posts: 605
Thanks: 11
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Renojustin is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Repel is broken.

Ahhhhhhhh. I guess I'd forgotten the details of the story, it being one of those predictable, cloyingly fatalistic Crouching Tiger clones like House of Flying Daggers.
__________________
Sauromatia: Lawful Evil
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.