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August 14th, 2008, 10:31 PM
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Re: Official Request Thread
Well, you present a persuasive argument...and I can see how that would be a cool feature. We wouldn't want to use standard vBulletin presets, though, which would mean designing these ourselves. Something that labor intensive isn't likely to happen in the near feature, I'm sorry. Cool suggestion, though.
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August 17th, 2008, 12:28 PM
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Re: Official Request Thread
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Originally Posted by Annette
Well, you present a persuasive argument...and I can see how that would be a cool feature. We wouldn't want to use standard vBulletin presets, though, which would mean designing these ourselves. Something that labor intensive isn't likely to happen in the near feature, I'm sorry. Cool suggestion, though.
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BTW, to add to this, there is another issue with this. The way vbulletin works (which is actually better designed software wise) much of the presentation layer is stripped out of the core application software and stored in the database templates. Because of this most major mods are de-coupled from the application and actually applied through the templating system. So what that means is that for every style you have, which in turn holds literally hundreds of individual templates, you have to modify each template for every modification to the site.
Because of that not only is it a maintenance nightmare from a labor standpoint but it also makes it very easy to forget to apply an update to a mod to one template versus the other.
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August 17th, 2008, 06:34 PM
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Re: Official Request Thread
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Originally Posted by Richard
...much of the presentation layer is stripped out of the core application software and stored in the database templates. Because of this most major mods are de-coupled from the application and actually applied through the templating system. So what that means is that for every style you have, which in turn holds literally hundreds of individual templates, you have to modify each template for every modification to the site...
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Well, that sounds like a terrible mess! I won't expect a miracle then.  Just remember one day when you're bored (I know you're all kinds of busy now, but eventually), that a lot of users wouldn't mind if there were just some simple color scheme options. If they were buried in the User CP, no one is going to dig it up before they bask in the glory of all of this blue for awhile - or if they do find it that fast, they must really be that averse to these colors.
Anyway, if there were a couple other options eventually, with colors selected to go nicely with the Shrapnel logo (and maybe even make it jump attractively out of the background.  ), it would be cool.
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August 18th, 2008, 10:47 AM
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Re: Official Request Thread
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Originally Posted by Richard
BTW, to add to this, there is another issue with this. The way vbulletin works (which is actually better designed software wise) much of the presentation layer is stripped out of the core application software and stored in the database templates. Because of this most major mods are de-coupled from the application and actually applied through the templating system.
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That's the same that phpBB3 does and most of MediaWiki. I really hate it because that means that something that you mod is usually tied to a template. It's extremely difficult to add something if you're not a core developer.
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