Guide: Bandar Log - you whipped me with what?!?

[Trumanator]

Well yeah, but you're not really using them as archers though. Sure it works, but its not horribly effective. The only way I could see flying archers being useful is if you had flying meelee units but no flying archers. I suppose EA Arco could make fairly good use of the Pegasi archers.

[Loren]

I've been trying Bandar Log against the AI, so far almost always disastrously. Even when I have the biggest army in the game I'm getting ganged up on early on. Since the PD is worthless you don't buy it and that makes you look like a juicy target to the AI.

It doesn't help to get things like a pretender (not a SC type at all!) with a few troops deciding to attack the province I was besieging--one dead pretender and yet another enemy in what was already a 3-front war.

[Jazzepi]

Originally Posted by Loren

I've been trying Bandar Log against the AI, so far almost always disastrously. Even when I have the biggest army in the game I'm getting ganged up on early on. Since the PD is worthless you don't buy it and that makes you look like a juicy target to the AI.

It doesn't help to get things like a pretender (not a SC type at all!) with a few troops deciding to attack the province I was besieging--one dead pretender and yet another enemy in what was already a 3-front war.

I don't think the AI takes PD's troop strength into account, just the amount that you've dumped into it.

Jazzepi

[Rytek]

Ah yes, the AI. A quick tip to avoid that: If 2 AI's are at war with each other. And one is at war with you and the other is not you must make sure that the AI you are at peace with cannot come adjacent to you sieging the AI that you are both at war with. The AI that has peace with you does not recognize you as owning the sieged castle yet. So, it will attack your force laying siege to the castle. If that happends, win or lose, the AI that you had peace with will consider itself at war with you. To prevent that, you must prevent that peacfull AI from getting adjacent to the castle you wish to siege. If you must, take that sieging army attack all around the castle, cutting the friendly AI off from getting to the castle. Even if both you and the friendly AI hit the same enemy ai province war will not be declared as long as it did not happen in a fort province.

[Loren]

Originally Posted by Rytek

Ah yes, the AI. A quick tip to avoid that: If 2 AI's are at war with each other. And one is at war with you and the other is not you must make sure that the AI you are at peace with cannot come adjacent to you sieging the AI that you are both at war with. The AI that has peace with you does not recognize you as owning the sieged castle yet. So, it will attack your force laying siege to the castle. If that happends, win or lose, the AI that you had peace with will consider itself at war with you. To prevent that, you must prevent that peacfull AI from getting adjacent to the castle you wish to siege. If you must, take that sieging army attack all around the castle, cutting the friendly AI off from getting to the castle. Even if both you and the friendly AI hit the same enemy ai province war will not be declared as long as it did not happen in a fort province.

As far as I can tell such a battle happening as part of a siege doesn't trigger war. It looks like war depends on who owned the province at the start of the turn.

What happened in this case was it was a suicidal attack by his pretender. Kill a pretender and it's war no matter what.

[Ghill]

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[Jazzepi]

Originally Posted by Trumanator

Well yeah, but you're not really using them as archers though. Sure it works, but its not horribly effective. The only way I could see flying archers being useful is if you had flying meelee units but no flying archers. I suppose EA Arco could make fairly good use of the Pegasi archers.

I found them once when playing EA T'ien Ch'i with a Water9/Astral9 bless for quickness and twist fate. They were absolutely amazing.

Jazzepi