OT: Bible Discussion (Split from Real World Sensitivities)

[Skirmisher]

Each star burning in the infinite realm of space is one of god's brain cells.

Space is infinte. That in itself is mindblowing.
Humans only have 5 senses and thus cannot know much of what exsists.
For anybody to say that humans here on earth are the only form of life in the universe have there heads ...(well you get the picture).

Also when we die that's not the end, nature gives us a new body. No we dont remeber that. It would be to confusing for us anyways. The soul is eternal,why should it be limited to one lousy lifetime?

[Tifone]

Originally Posted by Skirmisher

Each star burning in the infinite realm of space is one of god's brain cells.

Originally Posted by Skirmisher

Also when we die that's not the end, nature gives us a new body. No we dont remeber that. It would be to confusing for us anyways. The soul is eternal,why should it be limited to one lousy lifetime?

Those are nice beliefs, but nothing in our perceptions makes me believe it is more true than the FSM or Zeus

Originally Posted by Skirmisher

Space is infinte. That in itself is mindblowing.
Humans only have 5 senses and thus cannot know much of what exsists.
For anybody to say that humans here on earth are the only form of life in the universe have there heads ...(well you get the picture).

With all that I pretty much agree - dunno if there are other life forms, but it's unlikely that we are alone Remember we have science to expand our senses. But what can thing out of our senses (which actually reducing to the traditional 5 is very reductive ) be if not creations of our easily suggested minds?

Best wishes

[Skirmisher]

Originally Posted by Tifone

Those are nice beliefs, but nothing in our perceptions makes me believe it is more true than the FSM or Zeus

Humans were given free will, as a result we can believe whatever we like. True or not.

[JimMorrison]

Originally Posted by Skirmisher

Humans were given free will, as a result we can believe whatever we like. True or not.

Given, developed, possess..... Semantics aside, your conclusion is rock solid, even if the premise is a matter of conjecture.

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[Bwaha]

I agree that there's probably other life out there. One of my Buddy's and I discussing the possible dangers of the Cern collider, and he posited that when some race turns one on it creates a black hole and poof, and that maybe the source of the mysterious gamma bursts is some foolish race that started it on the surface of their planet. I posited that it will open a gate to a place that we really don't want opened. I think we should have a massive collider but lets build it in space, headed away from us on a exit vector just in case...

One of the reasons I believe in et's is Jesus said, "I will make you priests and kings." To be a king you have to have subjects, ditto for priests. I believe that this planet is a prison world designed to be the place of destruction of the fallen angels and the devil. Also to raise a people that over-came the miasma of evil that permeates our troubled world. I think that they (the aliens) are free from the things that trouble us here, and so are innocent. When Moses was leading the Israelis thru the desert the people kept coming to him for judgments (so in so is ripping me off, ect...) His father in law said to Moses, "appoint judges to take over judicial matters." I think that likewise God has created us to fill a similar role. Yes I'm sorry to say that my future may be as a bureaucrat. Brr, frightening that thought. Argh my internet is fading, be back later.

[Bwaha]

Okay, I had to move to a better connection. Tifone you asked me why I have these beliefs. Please let me tell you some of my history. I grew up with some problems that left me quite bitter. In response I grew to hate god. How dare he do this to me... So as a teenager I joined a coven. I considered this to be cool, we had a place to smoke dope and were served beer in a "safe" environment. But as I saw the terrible things that they did I didn't want to participate in them. In a dream a demon grabbed me and I cried out to god. I used his grace to get out of the clutches of the devil. Then I had a problem, they wanted me dead. So I joined the air force to get out of town. I took the path that got me out as quickly as possible. No mos specified. After taking the aptitude tests they decided to make me a crew chief for a b-52g, in sac no less. So here I was sitting next to a bunch of nukes all the time. I wanted to distract myself from what I was doing. So I read scifi when I was waiting to fire the missiles. One of the things that they pounded into us was global war was gonna happen. It was simply a matter of time. When they did a ori test we didn't know if it was a test or the real thing. To us each test was the real thing. We had orders to fire if we didn't get the recall signal. Brrr, I tell yah it was scary. So it was noticed I was reading and they didn't want me to be distracted. So came the command "don't read scifi on the flight line." So I got a bible and started reading it. Much to my horror I found a lot of similarity's to global thermo-nuclear war and the writings I was reading. And I turned into a pacifist. After being threatened with military prison if I didn't change my mind. I clung to my convictions and they let me go. Honorable discharge BTW. So I went on about my life and got hooked up with a group known as the order of Saint Luke. These people go the hospitals and comfort the dying. In one of times I was there my mentor took me to the chapel and told me to close my eyes. Then she prayed that I would have a vision. I did. I can't divulge exactly what I saw, but lets just say it was wonderful. I've looked at Jesus in his full glory, and heard, well done my faithful servant, enter into paradise... So I can't say I believe, because I know. Sorry about the length of my rant but you asked. I've experienced many other things as well.

[Bwaha]

Sorry If you are offended by my last post, also sorry about the syntax. It was rather painful revisiting that time in my life and I knew that if I stopped I wouldn't be able to continue. So lets move the subject off of me and return to cosmology.

I find that the references to other dimensions to be fascinating, Please look at II Corinthians chapter four. BTW the god of this word is satan. The verse that I'm referring to is #18. The bible is full of allusions like this. I'll stop for a response at this time.