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Old October 6th, 2008, 08:04 AM

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Speaking of change, when Obama speaks about change, he does so as if he owns the word without having any real understanding of what change really means... His phrase, "change" along with his tactics are text book Che Guevara communism. So what does real change really mean when it comes from Senator Obama if his inspiration and indeed his entire campaign effort was rooted from socialism.
Che Guevara's tactics were those of armed revolution. Have you any hard evidence that Obama is planning to arm the common workers to militarily overthrow the bourgeoisie and exploitative ruling classes?

Please also bear in mind that the US mainstream left-wing Democrats are more right-wing than your average Western European mainstream right-wing, such as the British Conservative party or the French UMP. Positioning the Democrats as "socialist" or "communist" denies such statements of credibility, as Western Europe is clearly not in the grip of Marxism.
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Please also bear in mind that the US mainstream left-wing Democrats are more right-wing than your average Western European mainstream right-wing, such as the British Conservative party or the French UMP.
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Positioning the Democrats as "socialist" or "communist" denies such statements of credibility, as Western Europe is clearly not in the grip of Marxism.
And if it would be, would that necessarily be that bad a thing?
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