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Old December 30th, 2008, 10:35 PM

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just restart dominions and it should fix it.
Did you mean "reinstall"? If that doesn't work, contact Shrapnel tech support because there's something wrong on your computer. Shrapnel tech support is pretty good and should be able to help you well before the next patch comes out.

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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:00 PM
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just restart dominions and it should fix it.
Did you mean "reinstall"? If that doesn't work, contact Shrapnel tech support because there's something wrong on your computer. Shrapnel tech support is pretty good and should be able to help you well before the next patch comes out.

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I went ahead and reinstalled it.
I began having these problem's right after I installed RAN DOM,so maybe that corrupted my install somehow.

Hopefully it will work right now. As I said before the game would work, but only if I use a game generated random map.
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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:43 PM
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Note: The cases listed below are bypassed by all site searching spells, not just one or two. This tends to be a trend with this particular bug. They have also always been this way. Both before and after sites were found there. If they were searched by a spell it was manually selected.

Search status key: [F:A:W:E:S:D:N:B:H]

In the MP game Standards:
-Province Dumna (106). It was originally in the possession of Ry'leh. I haven't bothered to search it and so it's search status is [0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]. Contains Brigand lair and Chitterpalm Oasis.
-Province Tapanete (120). I have owned it the entire game as it borders my cap. Search status is [9:9:9:0:0:0:9:0:3]. Contains Weeping Stones and Grove of Evergreens.
-Province Hamane (194). I have traded this province with Pangaea and Ry'leh regularly. I have owned it the majority and was a constant war zone. Search status is [0:0:0:0:0:0:9:0:2]. Contains Shambler Reef and Ancient Temple.

In the MP game Revenge of Pimpin:
-Province Aenasia (294). It has been out of my possession once and that was from an indy event. Search status is [9:9:0:0:9:0:9:0:2]. Contains Grove of Evergreens and Desert of Bones.

I'm sure I can relocate more of these if I put some time into it. I think there is a least one in the Collider game I'm playing. I'm actually really into that game and I don't want to publicly scout out my own provinces for my enemies.
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Old December 31st, 2008, 12:35 AM
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Not sure what the bug is? I mean, site searching spells have always bypassed any province with 2+ sites, whether they are level 0, worthless, what have you.

I am really hoping that the new behavior targets not only those that have not been searched at level 4+, but also those that contain 2 provinces already (as well as not ever casting on capitals!). Though I very very rarely do manual searches anymore, so I am mostly hoping for the 2 sites change. :P
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Old December 31st, 2008, 01:28 AM

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-Province Dumna (106). It was originally in the possession of Ry'leh. I haven't bothered to search it and so it's search status is [0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]. Contains Brigand lair and Chitterpalm Oasis.
-Province Tapanete (120). I have owned it the entire game as it borders my cap. Search status is [9:9:9:0:0:0:9:0:3]. Contains Weeping Stones and Grove of Evergreens.
-Province Hamane (194). I have traded this province with Pangaea and Ry'leh regularly. I have owned it the majority and was a constant war zone. Search status is [0:0:0:0:0:0:9:0:2]. Contains Shambler Reef and Ancient Temple.
Jim is right, these are all covered by the rules cited earlier. They have 2 sites already and are considered non-prime. The way I read JK's note, they will be searched in the next patch as long as there are no "prime" provinces for the path in question (i.e. not searched yet in that path and less than 2 sites known) to take priority.

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Not sure what the bug is? I mean, site searching spells have always bypassed any province with 2+ sites, whether they are level 0, worthless, what have you.

I am really hoping that the new behavior targets not only those that have not been searched at level 4+, but also those that contain 2 provinces already ... :P
What a strange coincidence! I wrote "2 or 3 discovered provinces" myself, before I spotted the typo in my post above.

Anyway, I can't resist micromanaging my site searching in MP, and in the beginning of my SP games. It will take something like Endo's new site mod to make me give up and just use the monthly rituals.
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What a strange coincidence! I wrote "2 or 3 discovered provinces" myself, before I spotted the typo in my post above.
Yeah, I've done it too, three or four times in this thread, although I think I've edited them all away by now.

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AoE: As others have stated, the issue you refer to does not seem to be outside the bounds of the currently-known algorithm's decision profile.

Something that I do not know (but would like to know) is if the algorithm will site-search a province with a path if an opponent has site-searched that province with that path. E.g., I believe Chitterpalm Oasis is not a 0-level water site; i.e., it must be searched for. Since you have not searched for it, and R'lyeh easily can search for it, it stands to reason that R'lyeh did in fact find it. If this is all true, I would like to know if a casting of Voice of Apsu (on auto-cast) will target this province. Assume for the sake of argument that the Oasis is the only site in the province found thus far. (This is a slight change from AoE's example.)
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Currently, if there is only one discovered site in a province, that province will be targeted by all automatic site-searching spells. Even if it's a W-4 site, which means there can't possibly be any more water sites, and you're casting Voice of Aspu.
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I've seen what aoe is talking about as well.
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