Crimson Skies - Running

qio · #1 January 31st, 2009, 08:34 PM

It is so cool you have an opinion Fakey. How bout keeping your comments to the game?

Never seen a dominion kill game Juffos? Not as hard as you think. I'd bet 2 cents that pretender design has a large role in the outcome. Course, it's the unending hordes of undead that usually kill you. Not the awake dom10 SC that strolls around, or is it?

Fakeymcfake · #2 January 31st, 2009, 09:20 PM

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It is so cool you have an opinion Fakey. How bout keeping your comments to the game?

I'd give you the same advice. We're here to enjoy ourselves not to get a lecture from someone clearly not interested in anyone's opinion but their own. Please attempt to keep the flamebaiting out of game thread otherwise no one will be able to enjoy themselves.

And as to whatever comment I'm expecting you're going to post in response to this I frankly don't care, but on the off chance you want to move on from this and only post constructive criticism I'll happily forget this altercation if you are.

JimMorrison · #3 February 1st, 2009, 04:35 AM

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It is so cool you have an opinion Fakey. How bout keeping your comments to the game?

Never seen a dominion kill game Juffos? Not as hard as you think. I'd bet 2 cents that pretender design has a large role in the outcome. Course, it's the unending hordes of undead that usually kill you. Not the awake dom10 SC that strolls around, or is it?

I was going to stay out of this, but it's getting ridiculous.

Anyone who takes an SC pretender as Ermor is a n00b who is just going to roll one neighbor, and then lose in mid-end game. The only things Ermor needs from their pretender are summons/research/diversity/dominion. Not killing stuff.

And anyways, I really -hate- fighting LA Ermor as well. But it's easy enough to just say "if you allow LA Ermor, I'm finding a different game", and let everyone else choose. As it is, it just looks like you're pitching a fit, but you'll play anyways.

qio · #4 February 1st, 2009, 09:59 AM

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I was going to stay out of this, but it's getting ridiculous.

Of course, but you couldn't help yourself could you?

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Anyone who takes an SC pretender as Ermor is a n00b who is just going to roll one neighbor, and then lose in mid-end game. The only things Ermor needs from their pretender are summons/research/diversity/dominion. Not killing stuff.

Did that make your day to use "noob" in a sentence? I really am curious.

Again, this is totally irrelevant. There is no particular claim I am trying to make here other than dominion kill is a viable strategy.

If you want to discuss the pretender choices that Ermor has so vehemently. Then I'd say a lich with dom10 fits the criteria you state above and would work fine as an SC in early, mid or late game. And yes, even an SC pretender with no magic diversity, bad research and access to some summons is viable in mid and late game. The variance of the game can supplement a multitude of strategies - good or bad.

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And anyways, I really -hate- fighting LA Ermor as well. But it's easy enough to just say "if you allow LA Ermor, I'm finding a different game", and let everyone else choose. As it is, it just looks like you're pitching a fit, but you'll play anyways.

Strange. That's what I originally said in my post. Am I missing something? Is the omission of a smiley making this appear vile and hostile? If you're an English Major maybe you could tell me where did I go wrong in this post? See below. I was going for a sarcastic tone here.

What makes you think I won't bail the moment someone picks Ermor?

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How bout all of those in favor of LA Ermor being in any MP game do the following. Each turn reduce your total income by 100 gold. Never spend this cash. Just look at it when you play your turn. Feel pride as your retirement fund grows (total = 100 * number of turn).

JimMorrison · #5 February 1st, 2009, 11:05 AM

It's just that you're being a bit of a jerk over the whole thing. Let me clarify - nothing came off as sarcastic or joking, it just seemed bitter and hostile.

LA Ermor has lost plenty of MP games. Do they color the game they are in? Most definitely. Do they make the game some sort of ridiculous farce, that everyone should get red in the face about, as you seem to be? Well no, not really. No more than Lanka, or Niefelheim, or Hinnom/Ashdod.

Just calm down, eh? If you don't want to play in a game with them, fine, then state it clearly and move on. If someone asks to play Ermor, then the host can choose. If you don't like the thought that he isn't outright banning Ermor because of your sour attitude, then you can opt to join another game before it gets to that point.

How hard is it, really?

qio · #6 February 1st, 2009, 01:20 PM

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It's just that you're being a bit of a jerk over the whole thing. Let me clarify - nothing came off as sarcastic or joking, it just seemed bitter and hostile.

I wasn't joking. The first post was neutral in tone. Defiant? Sure. I think sarcastic. If someone is going to start crying over that, that is simply pathetic.

As for anything else in subsequent posts. You get what you ask for. For example, you wrote a lot of trash in your prior post; which had no direct relevance with anything in my post. I could care less for your tone. Your content was feeble. See below.

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Anyone who takes an SC pretender as Ermor is a n00b

This statement is not true.

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If you don't like the thought that he isn't outright banning Ermor because of your sour attitude, then you can opt to join another game before it gets to that point.

Yes, I think anyone that is cool with LA Ermor being in a game has no clue. I said that already. That is my opinion. Maybe the host will take that into consideration, maybe he won't. Feel free to be offended.

JimMorrison · #7 February 1st, 2009, 03:46 PM

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Anyone who takes an SC pretender as Ermor is a n00b

This statement is not true.

Yes, actually it is. And no, a Lich does not qualify as an SC. A thug, sure, not an SC.

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If you don't like the thought that he isn't outright banning Ermor because of your sour attitude, then you can opt to join another game before it gets to that point.

Yes, I think anyone that is cool with LA Ermor being in a game has no clue. I said that already. That is my opinion. Maybe the host will take that into consideration, maybe he won't. Feel free to be offended.

Shortly after getting here, I was in a game with LA Ermor. They had to drop the game, and somehow Micah ended up subbing. In case you don't know him, let me just say that we lost the game. I defiantly stated that I'd never play in a game with LA Ermor again. Then I got better at the game. Now I'm in a game with a less expert player who is playing LA Ermor, and they are not winning. I'm happy enough. Maybe you should just calm down and avoid games with LA Ermor until you get your confidence up.

LA Ermor should lose every single time on a wrap-around map, if the game is primarily composed of moderately experienced players.

Anyway, enjoy your game. Or not. I could care more, I just like reading Chris' threads.

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qio · #8 February 1st, 2009, 05:16 PM

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Anyone who takes an SC pretender as Ermor is a n00b

You're like an energizer bunny.

If you feel it is bad design to make an SC pretender for Ermor you can state that. I'll disagree with you on that just for the fun of it. Would this still hold in a 4 player game? How about 3 players?

No, your statement is false. Proof? The fact you think no-one, who you would define as an expert or good player, would ever make such a pretender for fun is your shortsightedness. Some people play for fun. New concept? You can also sub in mediocre for expert.

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And no, a Lich does not qualify as an SC. A thug, sure, not an SC.

If you insist. Let's tango then.

I can build an SC from a lich. I'm sure there are others that can manage this feat as well. Do you have another definition for what you mean by an SC and/or Thug? I took those below from the strategywiki, as I'm lazy.

>> http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Dominio...ening/Units/SC
>> http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Dominio...ing/Units/Thug

The definition states that "In most cases gifted with lots of hitpoints". Does this have you confused? Lots of hitpoints are great. Comparing an SC lich to other builds, might reveal he is quite feeble. That is another matter. I think he can hold his own against a fair number of SC builds - certainly not all. Yes, he needs equipment. Luckily the definition states "outfitting SC's is a very popular occupation of many Dominions players". Also, as fortune would have it, a lich can fulfill one important criteria from the definition as well. Namely, "an SC can take weak defended provinces alone or annihilate smaller armies".

Let's see if we can get our facts straight on this point. Ball is in your court.

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Shortly after getting here, I was in a game with LA Ermor.

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Honestly. Don't care.

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Maybe you should just calm down and avoid games with LA Ermor until you get your confidence up.

I'm perfectly calm. Amused is a better characterization. I especially love it how people make assumptions. I got quite a few about you. Would be a waste of time to share them over the internet though.