Off topic: How are games failing you? - Page 14

sector24 · #1 February 12th, 2009, 04:24 PM

Sorry, I didn't mean to cause any trouble. I'll just slink back into the shadows now.

Tifone · #2 February 12th, 2009, 06:18 PM

While we can agree that this might not be the best play to give each other links of torrents

I'd give just a personal opinion.

I'm totally for supporting the devs who made a good game (and even better if they support it really well, I'm lookin at ya, guys

). And the company that made the game available to you. All of that, really.
But when the devs stop earning profit from the game itself, and possibly when the company itself stops putting it on sale, I start wondering.

We can't deny that games are an artistic experience. The tenth art, I'd say. Still, the art of creating games, and the artistic experience of playing them, is still an underdog. Often the so-called "media", for the pleasure of the masses, use this or that game as scapegoat for a shooting among teenagers or whatever. And while some philosophers and writers are making the artistic value of games more obvious to the masses, there aren't libraries or galleries for games, where everybody can live the artistic experience - nor we can expect them, for a long time. But shouldn't the artistic experiences, sons of the best intellect mankind, be available freely even to who doesn't have the means? Should the sharing of ideas be limited to books and paintings?
I think that pirating a game which is on sale is purely dishonest, because people worked hard on it and live on it, and whole companies depend on those sales. But when those people and companies stop offering the game, and thus stop expecting returns from that, shouldn't the artistic experience be available to those who didn't have the means to buy it?

Sorry for the long rant - random thoughts.

Comments or death threats are welcome...

rdonj · #3 February 12th, 2009, 06:25 PM

I would highly suggest if someone wants to continue this discussion that a new thread be made, this thread is wandering far off-course and I kind of liked it before it started wandering into legal territory.

Annette · #4 February 13th, 2009, 08:41 AM

Rdojn is right, Please keep your posts on topic. Unauthorized distribution of copyrighted intellectual property is illegal, even if you feel the copyright holder should release their property into public domain. Discussion of piracy and the promotion of illegal activity is prohibited on our forums.

Tifone · #5 February 13th, 2009, 02:15 PM

I'm sorry, mine was just a post on some ideals (fortunately, the high intelligence of the players of this game and members of this forum often permits very nice discussions

) and as I stated I was not advocating piracy at all.

Well, back on topic so!

JimMorrison · #6 February 13th, 2009, 05:02 PM

Just to make sure this ship sails back onto course -

I can't remember if this was mentioned earlier in the thread (I like to mention it a lot), but if you can handle REALLY old school RPGs, and you loved the feel and world of Fallout, then Wasteland was in fact the predecessor of Fallout, and will always remain one of my favorite games of all time. May be -very- hard to find. Here is an interesting site to get more info, and may help lead you towards legal avenues of enjoying this great old work.

Ranger HQ

Akela · #7 February 14th, 2009, 03:39 AM

Wasteland absolutely rocked! I remember loving Fallout so much because it was a new and improved Wasteland. I remember being in college and playing D&D in the living room while my brother's girlfriend sat in the next room playing Wasteland for hours on my 386 with a VGA monitor. A girl playing computer games!? Not such a big deal now but unheard of in 1988. She is the only person that I know personally who has finished the game. By pure (and weird) coincidence my brother told me the other day that he is playing it again. He's married to that girl now, do you think she's giving him hints?

Aezeal · #8 February 14th, 2009, 07:35 PM

hmm don't know that game and since even fall out '2 coulnd't keep me interested with fall out 3 around I don't think I'll even try.

Just finished 3 btw, did about 95% of quests as a good guy. I really love the setting, the sound and the feel of really being in a desert wasteland.

Hate Giant Radscorpions that refuse to die.

Aezeal · #9 February 14th, 2009, 07:44 PM

are there any games from the last 1-2 years you'd advice playing?

JimMorrison · #10 February 14th, 2009, 11:04 PM

If you like FPS, and you seem to, TimeShift is an often overlooked title that I really enjoyed. At first glance it's very "gimicky" in that "oh yay I can stop time" sort of way, but it is really well implemented, and while there are many little puzzles that you have to alter time to complete, you are also left wide open to use your time powers in combat, and you can (sometimes totally accidentally!) create some very incredibly amazing effects.

To be honest, when you talk about "recent games", and not the blockbuster titles like Fallout3, or BioShock, or Crysis..... Most that I've tried, really did not hold my interest for long, either from being totally bland, or from gaping wide design flaws. God I'm glad I get most of mine used..... Sword of the Stars for example, I barely got my $10 worth, I would have been PISSED if I had paid full price for it - but same goes for most games. Even Fallout3 we bought new, but my roomie and I split it, cause I can't shell out $60 for a game (cept Dominions, we had to buy 2 copies to get unique CD keys

).