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Old February 27th, 2009, 04:01 PM

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As was mentioned above, that competition won't even address the debate about the air bless. Kailasa isn't an archer heavy nation, unless someone decides to forgo the bless and focus on the monkey archers, which no one is suggesting as a viable strategy.
So it's almost a given that in this contest a non-air bless strategy will prevail.
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Old February 27th, 2009, 04:09 PM

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I don't think its a forgone conclusion that kailasa is not an archer nation. D9AxZx is how I play kailasa, and I usually focus on archers.

So you're saying you don't think anyone will take an archer nation thejeff?
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Old February 27th, 2009, 04:20 PM

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Default Re: Kailasa guide

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As was mentioned above, that competition won't even address the debate about the air bless. Kailasa isn't an archer heavy nation, unless someone decides to forgo the bless and focus on the monkey archers, which no one is suggesting as a viable strategy.
So it's almost a given that in this contest a non-air bless strategy will prevail.
what?

no. I'd contest that.

Kailasa is, in fact, an archer heavy nation. They have a gradient of four archers. They have the world's cheapest archer. They have one of only two [or maybe three] (in the entire game) sacred archers. They don't have a lot of precision. But they have lots of archers. If a Kailasa didn't take an Air bless, another Kailasa with an Air bless is just about the perfect nation to wipe them out. Not only are they immune to all of Kail's archers, they are free to use all their own (depite low precision) with near impunity.

An Air bless is just as, if not more, salient in an all Kailasa game as in any other game. Otherwise your making your 25 gold recruit which you invested a 500 point bless into easily counterable by a 5 gold markata with no bless.

I actually make monkey archers central to my strategy when I'm using an Air bless. That's part of the beauty with that bless, you can make them a key component. Add to that that you have perfect mages for spamming Destruction and Iron Bane (and with, well what do you know, an A9 bless they can also sit right on the front lines with impunity so their Destruction spells can reach pretty much any target).
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Old February 27th, 2009, 05:42 PM

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Agreed with Omnirizon 100%. Kailasa's sacreds are 20+ hp buckler wielding swordsmen with 1(!) protection. The vast majority of kailasa's units don't even have a buckler, or any kind of armor worth speaking of. Kailasa is absolutely one of the best targets for enemy archer hordes in the game, so far as I can tell. Markata would even be the superior archers in this case due to the sheer volume of missile fire they can achieve.

Tifone - While it's true that other blesses would be more useful against powerful sacred rush nations, the ones you just mentioned should be completely possible to deal with if you can get a bit of research done before you have to face them down. Which should generally be quite possible, I think.
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Old February 27th, 2009, 06:00 PM

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Default Re: Kailasa guide

Endoperez suggested this thread in another and I set out whacking together a mod for a multi-EA Kailasa game letting you sort out your argument. I have something but it needs some more work. Notably I can't figure out how to *add pretenders*. I have:
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#selectmonster 499
#restrictedgod 72
#end
and that doesn't seem to be working. If someone can point me out a mod that does this I would be grateful. Also PD was just a guess and may be better that is should be. Fort types are also just a guess. I will correct them when I have more time.

A sample with three players is include here to look. The mod name is "Any Kailasa Early Age". The python script that generates it is included as an example in dmg.zip in this thread.
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