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Old May 26th, 2009, 09:22 AM
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Yes like I said its useful at times, "cheat" I have been known to use if I have APCs that are not up to much is deploy them as a second line of defence....
not done on purpose but have fooled a player into blitzing with arty there empty emplacements before as they engaged
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Well concerning the APC/tank-in-foxhole thing, if we're talking about "infantry" foxholes mmm... yes it's a cheat. Infantry abandoning and reoccupying a foxhole or trenchline to avoid the arty barrage and then "man the defenses" to face the upcoming attack is not an unheard of tactic. It is difficult to implement, case sensitive (terrain and enemy's ability to coordinate his attack) and the risk is to give up, with little or no resistance, your defensive position if not properly executed.
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I've used much the same tactic VS the AI many times.

In a meeting enguagement the AI will almost invariably shell the hell outta the first victory hex you capture, so I try to grab one as early as possible then evacuate the area letting the AI shell nothing and allow my counter battery to perhaps fire and also allow me to (hopefully) spot some of it's on-board artillery/mortar positions.

In situations where I have to defend I'll move screening units up so the AI encounters them before it locates my main (dug in) defensive positions and again it frequently blows the hell outta nothing.

Such tactics may work VS a live opponent, but would be much harder to implement.
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I've used much the same tactic VS the AI many times.

In a meeting enguagement the AI will almost invariably shell the hell outta the first victory hex you capture, so I try to grab one as early as possible then evacuate the area letting the AI shell nothing and allow my counter battery to perhaps fire and also allow me to (hopefully) spot some of it's on-board artillery/mortar positions.

In situations where I have to defend I'll move screening units up so the AI encounters them before it locates my main (dug in) defensive positions and again it frequently blows the hell outta nothing.

Such tactics may work VS a live opponent, but would be much harder to implement.
Partly because its more fun than sitting there once you know where the main thrust is a counter attack or hit & run tactics verses any secondary force works well unless he is a canny opponent. Losses sight of his objective & diverts forces & arty to your roving force costing valuable time. If you can make it an inneffective force all units in the area can then head to bolster defences vs his main force or swing in on his flank head for the arty park if you have fast stuff.
Anything that diverts him drawing forces from main thrust & wasting time is worth its weight in gold as he will pay dearly later as time ticks away.
Takes a bit of practice but as said much more fun than just sitting there & carries its own risks.
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Yes like I said its useful at times, "cheat" I have been known to use if I have APCs that are not up to much is deploy them as a second line of defence....
not done on purpose but have fooled a player into blitzing with arty there empty emplacements before as they engaged
...
Well concerning the APC/tank-in-foxhole thing, if we're talking about "infantry" foxholes mmm... yes it's a cheat. Infantry abandoning and reoccupying a foxhole or trenchline to avoid the arty barrage and then "man the defenses" to face the upcoming attack is not an unheard of tactic. It is difficult to implement, case sensitive (terrain and enemy's ability to coordinate his attack) and the risk is to give up, with little or no resistance, your defensive position if not properly executed.
Have never tried to get hull down status in an infantry foxhole with a vehicle as expect it not to work. Infantry & vehicles can gain dug in status in vehicle/gun emplacements. I dont take over enemy ones with vehicles either as they are probably set up to face me & besides the best defence against his arty is to keep mobile
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