LAV errors?

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Originally Posted by Imp

USMC & Canadian LAVs, I realise they are diffrent vehicles but as far as I can tell both carry same main armament & same number of rounds for it. 210 ready plus a further 210 stowed but the USMC version gets about half of the Canadian loadout.

The USMC load is too light and is on the list to correct. Yes the CDN LAVIII and the USMC LAV-25 use the same weapon but what is your source that because they have the same weapon the two entirely different vehicles ( The LAV III's hull is longer and wider ) have the same ammo load ??? A quick search of http://www.military-today.com/apc/kodiak.htm indicates the LAVIII carries 500 rounds which would put the current CDN load in the OOB very, very close to what it should be. If you have better info please share the source. I can give you one that seems to indicate that 420 rounds are stored in the Lav-25 and 210 are "ready" http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/cv/inf/LAV.html

Typical Ammo Load
25mm M242 automatic gun Turret; dual-belt feed Ready: 210 (150 + 60). Stowed: 420.
APDS-T, APFSDS-T, HEI-T, TPDS-T, TP-T.

I'm fairly sure that's wrong and should be 420 total but this is typical of the "quality" of info we have to work with and just about anyone can find something that deviates from the norm and we could spend the rest of our lives "correcting" bad info like this. I've seen one website claim the CDN LAV III carries 845 25 mm rounds ( I don't belive that either )

Don

[Imp]

As stated in first post aware diffrent vehicles & its stowage not the weapon that determines ammo. Said the same weapon so your rounds per burst calc is same for both. Cant find original ref forgot to bookmark & cleared my history but heres others
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...und/lav-25.htm for LAV 25
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...gen3-specs.htm for LAV III
All sites were consistent for LAV 25 listing as 150+60 ready + 210 stowed
LAV III lists this to but found 480 total rounds also.
To me stowed rounds of 210 or 270 sounds more correct than the 500 you found
Stowed
150+60 = 420 Total
150+60+60 = 480 Total
500 leaves another 20 shells.

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Originally Posted by Imp

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...gen3-specs.htm for LAV III

And that source says ....

Crew - Eleven:

•Driver
•Vehicle Commander
•Gunner
•Eight Troops

Every source I find says 10, three crew and seven troops when used as an infantry section carrier. ( Yes, I know the OOB currently has 3+8 , that has been changed)

http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/land-te...asp?product=64

that's the Canadian Armed Forces website so I'm betting they know how many troops get into these things

says.......

"When used as an infantry section carrier, the LAV III deploys with a vehicle commander, a gunner, a driver and seven infantry soldiers. When deployed as a Tactical Command Post, it carries six soldiers"

Unfortunately they don't say how many rounds of 25mm ammo is carried but I have a call out to a guy I know who will know for certain

So if globalsecurity got how many troops load in it who's to say their info about ammo storage is any good ? Stangely enough military-today.com does have the number of troops carried correct ( Crew 3 men Personnel 6 - 7 men ) so until that's proven wrong I'm going with the 500 figure military-today quotes


This is why getting info... RELIABLE INFO...is a complete joke really. Given enough time anybody can find anything that disagrees with just about everything.


Don

[Imp]

Have to admit they are often inconsistent which is why I said the LAV 25 was, anyway finaly off on my trip in a couple of days so I will leave you to it. Seasons greetings & all that & if the patch is a bit late not a problem people get 2 Xmass instead.

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Originally Posted by Imp

Seasons greetings & all that & if the patch is a bit late not a problem people get 2 Xmass instead.

The MBT patch will be released closer to Easter than Christmas

Don