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Old March 10th, 2010, 11:41 AM
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I have done a bit of further research on this matter.
It appears that the north koreans may indeed have had some
SU-85Ms in service, albeit telling apart a SU-85M from a SU-100 in an old pic isn't a 100% thing.

If deemed worthwhile it could be included by adding a clone of unit 461 armed with weapon n. 90 85mm S-53 44, name change to SU-85M and increased ammo load to 48 rounds.
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I have done a bit of further research on this matter.
It appears that the north koreans may indeed have had some
SU-85Ms in service, albeit telling apart a SU-85M from a SU-100 in an old pic isn't a 100% thing.

If deemed worthwhile it could be included by adding a clone of unit 461 armed with weapon n. 90 85mm S-53 44, name change to SU-85M and increased ammo load to 48 rounds.
Given the original complaint was where SU-100's even on NK Soil before the mid 60's making a "clone" of unit 461 seems a bit of a stretch. I can see REpLACING that unit with a SU-85 but since the discussion ended when I asked hard questions we are still in the dark. I will change 461 to a su-85. You tell me "may indeed have had some SU-85Ms in service" shall we assume they were in service until the su-100 arrived

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name change to SU-85M and increased ammo load to 48 rounds.

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SU-85M - SU-85 with the casemate from the SU-100 tank destroyer, which was larger and could carry up to 60 rounds instead of 48. It also had the same commander's cupola as the one used in the T-34-85.
UNFORTUNATELY the quote is from Wikipedia and I am still looking for a corroborating source

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....... early production stage of SU-100 it was substantial shortage with the armor-piercing ammunition for the 100mm gun and thus mass production of the new tank-destroyer was delay. To prevent interruption of supply to the front it was decided to arm some completed units not with 100mm gun but with 85mm gun. Such units were designated as SU-85M and some 300 were produced until December 1944.

"Russian Battlefield" says 315 M's were made

Given those reason it makes sense why the M looks like a SU-100. The photo in the game of the Polish su-85m shows this all off



It would be nice to know if the ammo storage was greater on the M

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