Pernicious Peanut - Newbie only 4 player game (Running) - Page 8

Jorus · #71 May 4th, 2010, 08:05 AM

Kupiko, I have come to the same conclusion. Unfortunately IU had to learn the hard way, and consume many air gems to complete the lesson!

But explain this to me, if I may ask, you are besieging me with 250+ units, why are my walls not being damaged?

Jorus/Caelum

Kupiko · #72 May 5th, 2010, 02:07 PM

I'd love to know that too lol. I guess flyers are good in defending castle but that much? How many do u have inside? Anyway i left from the siege. Those lizardy buggers swarm me

not even talking about stealthy armies of helheim

a lot of fun i have to say.

Jorus · #73 May 5th, 2010, 02:29 PM

There's a good newbie question - I didn't think the strength of the defenders had anything to do with the wall destruction. You've seen all the flyers, nothing special.

Quitti · #74 May 5th, 2010, 05:18 PM

Check here. The wiki is your friend

(Just barging in, sorry!)

Pablomatic · #75 May 5th, 2010, 08:33 PM

Since we're all more or less "newbies" here, I thought I'd share some experiences I've had with Helheim.

Dis+Enhare raiders can't seem to get the job done. Perhaps it's because of those damn chariots that trample even mounted troops, but I have lost every one I have committed to battle so far.

Helcarls+Helherdings seem to do a better job. I can think of two possible reasons for the failure of my Dis's. Maybe they pick up too much fatigue when they fly to attack rear, or maybe their Enhare bodyguard just can't do the job, where the Helherding seem to protect the Helcarls from harm.

Also, Shock Wave rocks! I think TC would agree. I had 1 Hangadrott w/helherding bodyguard attack a large TC army (at least 50+ troops including a few chariots (it was an accident). Result? Routed TC army after mistform, airshield, 2Xshockwave, and skellyspam.

I've got to try Caelum in a future game. Eagle Kings mistform, attack rear + Shockwave should be devastating.

Also, blood sacrificing with a B1 mage seems to have minimal effect. I've maintained my own dominion barely, but I'm not impressed so far.

Pablomatic · #76 May 5th, 2010, 08:45 PM

Also, I appreciate Kupiko for not complaining that he's under attack from all three of us.

I for one appreciate the good sportsmanship. I'm also very impressed that he hasn't collapsed already, and seems to be definitely holding his own.

Feather in your cap for being a good gaming partner Kupiko.

Gregstrom · #77 May 6th, 2010, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablomatic

Also, blood sacrificing with a B1 mage seems to have minimal effect. I've maintained my own dominion barely, but I'm not impressed so far.

Drive-by comment:

Blood sacrifice is related to your priest levels, not Blood. It generates temple checks (2 per priest level IIRC?), so you're best off doing it with H2 or H3 priests. Jade daggers are your friend here, as they let you sac as if you were 2 priest levels higher.

Oh, and if you don't have a high base Dominion effects will of course be weaker.

Kupiko · #78 May 6th, 2010, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablomatic

Also, I appreciate Kupiko for not complaining that he's under attack from all three of us.

I for one appreciate the good sportsmanship. I'm also very impressed that he hasn't collapsed already, and seems to be definitely holding his own.

Feather in your cap for being a good gaming partner Kupiko.

Well i can't really be against it cause it's fun

trying to beat off 3 of you at once.

I just realized how unfair for my tactic it is to have scoregraphs enabled. Cause my tactic relies on maxed scales and excellent early game, that tho puts me up on top of scoregraphs which eventually leads to everyone considering me threat

Next game i vote for scoregraphs disabled so we can't read that much about oponent without using scouts etc.

Jorus · #79 May 6th, 2010, 06:44 AM

I agree that the scoregraphs helped get the United Front formed.

As for learning lessons, I thought I had TC nailed with him only having 4 commanders each with less than 16 HP. I'd send in 8 Seeking Arrows (8HP damage each) - and mop up the remains.
Well, the SA damage is also modified by protection so 3 of his commanders survived (with less than 5 HP) and moved on with their squads. Of course, the leaderless squads didn't move, and they routed immediately at the sight of the magnificent Caelum army!
And now he's loose in my interior, but smaller and smaller....

Gregstrom · #80 May 6th, 2010, 07:17 AM

SA damage is AN, so armour doesn't count. However, each arrow's damage rolls are modified by damage rolls against Prot 0 (DRN rolled to add to the damage, and DRN rolled to subtract from the damage), so I guess you'd expect between 25% and 50% survival rate with the spread you were firing.