MA Test Game - Retinues

[Septimius Severus]

Aparently DrP is going to save making national commanders tougher as a means to balance weaker nations in his balance mod. Probably may not even need to make national commanders necessarily tougher though, simple things like greater map movement, more leadership (or other types of leadership), maybe one or two effects like patrol, or standard, seige, or cold or heat resistance, with/without retinues may be enough to make players think twice at least about using them more.

[Wrana]

Yes, I thought something along these lines. Thug commanders in civilized nations should be summons or specialists such as above-mentioned Kappa chief or Serpent Lord. Black Lords of Ulm are something of an exception, being good commanders as well, but Ulm forging ability allows to make thugs much easier.

[DrPraetorious]

Tough commanders or tough *retinues* could both balance weaker nations.

I'll consider stripping the retinue off the Kappa Chief - I don't think he's much use as a thug (in spite of his recuperation and kung fu), but as an amphibious commander of course you will use him some - but then, as soon as you get any water provinces, you'll switch entirely to indie commanders, guaranteed.

Originally Posted by Wrana

Yes, I thought something along these lines. Thug commanders in civilized nations should be summons or specialists such as above-mentioned Kappa chief or Serpent Lord. Black Lords of Ulm are something of an exception, being good commanders as well, but Ulm forging ability allows to make thugs much easier.