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Re: Gem use, master enslave, high astral and oracle.
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No, nothing has changed and it's always been this way. Check page 89 of the (pdf) manual. There's even an example with a mage using one gem to raise paths, and a second one to reduce fatigue.
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You are reading it wrong  As has been pointed out in this thread already a few times, a mage can use at most as many gems as he has levels in the path, and one of those gems can be used to increase his level. This is the way it has always been
The example you point to tells this very clearly. The mage is an Astral 2 mage who wants to cast an Astral 3 spell. As he is Astral 2, he can use 2 gems. He uses one to raise his level to 3, and then the other to reduce the fatigue. It is explicitly stated he can not use three or more gems because his original skill (ie without the gem "boost") is 2.
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March 9th, 2011, 04:11 PM
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Re: Gem use, master enslave, high astral and oracle.
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No, nothing has changed and it's always been this way. Check page 89 of the (pdf) manual. There's even an example with a mage using one gem to raise paths, and a second one to reduce fatigue.
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You are reading it wrong As has been pointed out in this thread already a few times, a mage can use at most as many gems as he has levels in the path, and one of those gems can be used to increase his level. This is the way it has always been
The example you point to tells this very clearly. The mage is an Astral 2 mage who wants to cast an Astral 3 spell. As he is Astral 2, he can use 2 gems. He uses one to raise his level to 3, and then the other to reduce the fatigue. It is explicitly stated he can not use three or more gems because his original skill (ie without the gem "boost") is 2. |
Well, yes, that's... what I'm saying and been saying all along ?  Are we in violent agreement, here ?
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March 9th, 2011, 04:31 PM
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Re: Gem use, master enslave, high astral and oracle.
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Originally Posted by Kobal2
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Originally Posted by Jarkko
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Originally Posted by Kobal2
No, nothing has changed and it's always been this way. Check page 89 of the (pdf) manual. There's even an example with a mage using one gem to raise paths, and a second one to reduce fatigue.
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You are reading it wrong As has been pointed out in this thread already a few times, a mage can use at most as many gems as he has levels in the path, and one of those gems can be used to increase his level. This is the way it has always been
The example you point to tells this very clearly. The mage is an Astral 2 mage who wants to cast an Astral 3 spell. As he is Astral 2, he can use 2 gems. He uses one to raise his level to 3, and then the other to reduce the fatigue. It is explicitly stated he can not use three or more gems because his original skill (ie without the gem "boost") is 2. |
Well, yes, that's... what I'm saying and been saying all along ? Are we in violent agreement, here ? |
Nope, you said:
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Nope, you can only use one gem to materially boost your magic paths. You can gobble as many gems as you darn well please to soak fatigue.
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You can *not* gobble as many gems as you please to soak fatigue. You can only use at most as many gems as what your level is the path.
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March 9th, 2011, 06:30 PM
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Re: Gem use, master enslave, high astral and oracle.
I hope you don't mind a newb poking in here, but IMHO this exact question is answered in precise detail in a recent thread: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=47094.
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March 9th, 2011, 09:59 PM
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Re: Gem use, master enslave, high astral and oracle.
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You can *not* gobble as many gems as you please to soak fatigue. You can only use at most as many gems as what your level is the path.
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Ah yes, I wanted to post an addendum to that, but I either forgot or thought that part was well understood by everyone. Either way, yes, no more gem huffing than your pre-buffed path in that particular magic element.
ETA: that's pre-buffed by gems. Buffing via empowerment or magic items does allow you to eat more delicious rock-candy.
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