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Old May 7th, 2011, 10:06 PM
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There are 92 OOBs in the game: many are third world or unpopular countries that have received little attention and would profit from overhauls. Also note that issues dating back to WW2, such as the armor quality of german AFVs, are still being debated decades later: things like the armor of the Abrams won't be publicized for quite a long time.
Not many if any 3rd world countries will get the most advanced MBT's,Abrams,Merkava ect.any time soon in the future, as in this uneasy politcal climate they could very well be used against NATO.
Any Arab nation (pakistan for one) and N.Korea especially!
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Old May 8th, 2011, 04:29 AM
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Not many if any 3rd world countries will get the most advanced MBT's,Abrams,Merkava ect.any time soon in the future, as in this uneasy politcal climate they could very well be used against NATO.
Any Arab nation (pakistan for one) and N.Korea especially!
That's completely besides the point, which is that a lot of minor OOBs are off mark in terms of presence or absence of certain weapons, availability dates, formations etc.
Have you seen the differences between the iraqi OOB of four years ago and the current one? Or how much the north korean one has changed in the last two years? It may well be that a lot of these issues in others OOBs will never be fixed for lack of time. And in 2050 we will be still discussing how much Abrams armor was capable in 1985, just like we are still discussing the metallurgy of King Tiger armor in 1945.

As for the rest Abrams are already assembled in Egypt and have been sold to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. None of which could use them against NATO without magic teleporting.
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Old May 8th, 2011, 07:27 PM

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Any Arab nation (pakistan for one)
You might want to check your maps, Pakistan is not an Arab nation and not even located particularly close to them (the closest one seems to be Oman, on the other side of the Gulf of Oman, ie. several hundred kilometers away).
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I have to agree with MARCELLOS last post, dealing with some of the smaller countries in the game. In the last patch post I ran into this situation (And others.) with Malaysia concerning the PT-91 MBT, saw some info on it, investigated it, found changes needed to made to it, and submitted the info. The problem was I kept seeing references to an ADNAN APC-so what? Here's a country I've never used in the game or gave much thought to, I find an article or two on a tank upgrade and the next thing I know I'm "going down the rabbit hole" chasing APCs that Malaysia has had for at least 8 yrs. In total we got the tank upgrade, 6 or 7 ADNAN variants, 2 or 3 APC deletions (Never got those units.) and 2 new APCs being fielded in 2012 (Thanks Don.), All by accident, because of a tank issue. The work isn't easy and I would submit based on my small contribution to the game thus far, that at least a third of what we add or delete will come from "accidents" similiar to the example above. I would refer you to the APC thread Post #62 for further information. And the armor point is well taken also.

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I have to agree with MARCELLOS last post, dealing with some of the smaller countries in the game. In the last patch post I ran into this situation (And others.) with Malaysia concerning the PT-91 MBT, saw some info on it, investigated it, found changes needed to made to it, and submitted the info. The problem was I kept seeing references to an ADNAN APC-so what? Here's a country I've never used in the game or gave much thought to, I find an article or two on a tank upgrade and the next thing I know I'm "going down the rabbit hole" chasing APCs that Malaysia has had for at least 8 yrs. In total we got the tank upgrade, 6 or 7 ADNAN variants, 2 or 3 APC deletions (Never got those units.) and 2 new APCs being fielded in 2012 (Thanks Don.), All by accident, because of a tank issue. The work isn't easy and I would submit based on my small contribution to the game thus far, that at least a third of what we add or delete will come from "accidents" similiar to the example above. I would refer you to the APC thread Post #62 for further information. And the armor point is well taken also.

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Yes. I think they is doing much to update the game data. I thank you and those who are doing research on the units.
It is true that maybe need to see present before the future.
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