M734 Multi-Option Fuze

[DRG]

......I'll let everyone debate this then see what the result is

ALL 8x mm mortars in the game right now are HEK 11 so if we move say.... the M252 to 12 or 13 then what needs to be done is find out who else uses a fuse system like that and if it's justified to move 81mm mortars into the 90mm - 100mm kill range and if we want to avoid that then we are left with moving them to HEK 12 and I sincerely doubt a 1 HEK change will make any noticeable change to game play.

Now..... if there is some proof this fusing system makes 81mm ( or 60mm or 120mm ) mortars as effective as a larger calibre then there is justification to make a change but we should see that proof

So I'm not saying no, I'm just not saying yes

Don

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by DRG

......I'll let everyone debate this then see what the result is

So I'm not saying no, I'm just not saying yes

Perfectly reasonable and why I started this thread.
Yeah, +1 would be pointless, is +2 "too much" and "reasonable"?

Currently the 155mm goes from 21 HE Kill to 42 HE Kill for the VT version, which may be a bit much perhaps.
I'm thinking a 25% increase maybe. So 60mm from 7 to 9, 81mm from 11 to 13-14, 120mm from 19 to 23-24, the 155mm VT from 42 to 26.

Discussion?

[dmnt]

If we compare the +25% rule to AMOS and STRIX I get the feeling that it's too high. Neither AMOS nor STRIX currently get any additional HEK bonus.

Swedish OOB (obat66, v. 5.5)

120mm AMOS
ACC: 6
HEK: 19

120mm STRIX
ACC: 10
HEK: 19

120mm Mortar
ACC: 3
HEK: 19

81mm Mortar
Acc: 3
HEK: 11

The fact that AMOS and STRIX rounds can be fired to hit simultaneously does not IMO seem to be reflected in the OOB. +2 might be reasonable for intelligent munitions all around with maybe some additional bonuses for big calibers. How about for every additional 10 HEK units (without VT) there's a +2 bonus with VT munitions?

Howitzers etc., typical HEK (base) for mm, proposed addition, new HEK for VT and similar improved munitions

 mm    base   add    hek
105     11     2     13
115     13     2     15
130     17     2     19
140     19     2     21
152     21     4     25
165     23     4     27
175     25     4     29
180     27     4     31
203     31     6     37
210     33     6     39
280     47     8     55
290     49     8     57

For mortars, 60mm might not be getting +2, but +1 instead as the HEK is quite low.
Mortars, typical HEK (base) for mm, proposed addition, new HEK for VT and similar improved munitions

mm    base   add    hek
60      7     1      8
81     11     2     13
98     13     2     15
107    15     2     17
120    19     2     21
160    27     6     33
240    43     8     51