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Old January 7th, 2012, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: Early HEAT for Soviet tanks...

I will take this under consideration but if you are going to tell me ...

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.......D-48 gun in #606 T-34/85 in Russian OOB is definitely too strong - D-48 used different and not exchangeable ammunition....
.....then best be prepared to provide me with hard info to support that contention.


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Default Re: Early HEAT for Soviet tanks...

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I will take this under consideration but if you are going to tell me ...

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.......D-48 gun in #606 T-34/85 in Russian OOB is definitely too strong - D-48 used different and not exchangeable ammunition....
.....then best be prepared to provide me with hard info to support that contention.

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At the moment I have only soft info in Russian
On the quoted pages, clearly copied from some book http://vadimvswar.narod.ru/ALL_OUT/T...O/SuPTO033.htm and http://vadimvswar.narod.ru/ALL_OUT/T...O/SuPTO034.htm there is enumerated ammunition for D-44: БP (BR) are AP rounds, БK (BK) - HEAT, all of "365" and "367" series plus BK-2 Heat.

On the following page http://vadimvswar.narod.ru/ALL_OUT/T...O/SuPTO035.htm there is ammo for D-48 - they are different rounds of "372" series. Moreover, under table 18 there is a remark: "For shooting of D-48 it is forbidden to use ammunition for D-44, KS-1, 52-K, 85mm tank and SP guns".

D-48 used apparently bigger cases, with 2.44 - 5.43 kg of powder, while D-44's had 1.5 - 2.6 kg of powder. But not only cartridges' numbers (UBR (YБP)), but also rounds' numbers (BR) differ.

(There were published lots of interesting books in Russian in past 20 year - seems, that they have to compensate for communist secret times. Moreover, those, who read them, are eager to spread them in the web... )

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