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August 5th, 2002, 09:16 PM
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Re: Ally ship designs
"Enemy ship designs" can be more accurately described as "Foreign Ship Designs".
Anything not desgined by you gets placed there.
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August 5th, 2002, 09:28 PM
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Re: Ally ship designs
* staggers in wearing ye royal jammies and bunny slippers
Yawn...let me answer in reverse order my boy.
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2. If you have their ship designs they should be listed under "enemy ship designs" as the good fellow says
1. You are right - there should be some way to recieve friendly ship designs...in a sensible world. But, I don't think there is. As far as I can tell, ship designs are revealed on combat...if you battle with a hostile empire, for example. I don't believe that you recieve ship designs from your allies unless those ship designs have seen combat. I could be wrong...my theories could be based entirely on happenstance...but that is what i have observed. I certainly understand the dilemna...it seems very unnatural to be closely allied with a race and yet know very little about it's ship designs.
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August 5th, 2002, 09:51 PM
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Re: Ally ship designs
You could always run intel operations against them to steal their ship designs...but of course, they would get angry about it.
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August 5th, 2002, 09:52 PM
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Re: Ally ship designs
That's why I like to research Scanners and put a few listening post satellites around my territory... any ally ship that passes through will get scanned unless he has a Scanner Jammer! (Hmm, maybe there should be levels of Scanner Jammers that block different levels of scanners, just like with cloaks and sensors...)
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August 5th, 2002, 11:16 PM
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Re: Ally ship designs
Maybe you should mod in a Range-1 long range scanner for your resupply depots. When the allies come to get supplies, you get a close-up look at 'em.
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August 6th, 2002, 06:04 PM
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Re: Ally ship designs
I thought a Partnership treaty was supposed to allow access to allies' ship designs...
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August 6th, 2002, 06:37 PM
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Re: Ally ship designs
It does, if and when they enter combat with anyone.
It would be pretty weird if Military Alliance gave all designs, because it's really a "resupply treaty" - there would be no way to allow foreign ships to supply at your depots without revealing ALL ship designs, which would be a huge concession and wouldn't make much sense.
Personally, for SE5, I'd like to see treaties consist of mix-and-match conditions rather than hierarchical levels.
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