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Old July 21st, 2012, 12:39 AM
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Wow I seriously forgot just how bad the free game looks the CD was worth every penny.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 05:35 AM
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Thats a great video and good publicity for the game!

The poor video quality is due to a number of things. First the game and the video recorder software needs to be set to the same resolution. Secondly Youtube uses odd resolutions and further degrades video quality when it converts the user uploaded videos to its own formats.

I'd try setting the game resolution to 640x480 and then record it in a window using a recording software like camstudio set at the same 640x480 recording resolution and a high picture quality setting. However even if that video comes out good it suffers when it gets converted to youtube video. This is not helped by the fact that these are 2D games with alot of one pixel wide details.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 06:47 AM
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Sorry got to disagree with you Rosollia while what you mention has merit causing minor video degrade it is not the main problem. Click on videos of other games the guys done they look fine so his video capture is okay,
The main problem is the free game looks terrible made slightly worse by being videoed. It reminded me just how bad it looked I bought the MBT CD first & had to stop playing WWII till I bought that to as now realised just how poor the quality was & it made it unplayable.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 08:26 AM
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Well the free game looks nothing like the youtube video on my system, but I guess if you have a really bad quality monitor/video card with no support for low resolutions or you use a program like D3DWindower to artificialy stretch the screen it can look ugly and unplayable.

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Click on videos of other games the guys done they look fine so his video capture is okay
That makes no difference since a setting that works on video capture for one game does not mean it works for all games.
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I did a little bit of testing using Camstudio program to record the video of WinSPWW2 game. I set the game to run at windowed 640x480 resolution and used the Camstudio to record the window.

The first video is captured using the Microsoft Video 1 codec. Because of the 23 MB size limit for attachements it is a short clip. However it shows that the game can be recorded in good quality using Camstudio.

EDIT: Or I could just ZIP to a 5.26 MB size...
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Old July 21st, 2012, 10:13 AM
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In this second video I have compressed the video using Microsoft Movie Maker. The format used is .WMV (Windows Media Video). This reduces the size of the video file from 21 MB to just 3.6 MB however the image quality suffers alot.

This is the problem with recording of WinSPWW2. There is alot of small fine detail in the graphics and any sort of compression really messes them up.

I have seen HD videos in Youtube that look amazing, but I have no idea how they manage to upload the videos without dramatic image quality loss.

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Camstudio is available here: http://camstudio.org/

Some useful tips on configuring camstudio on 64 bit OS and Windows Vista/7:
http://camstudio.org/forum/discussio...-showing-up/p1
http://camstudio.org/forum/discussio...trol-failed/p1
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The 5MB ZIP video is perfect quality, but 5MB for 19 seconds! With no sound?


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Yeah, just imagine someone recording 30 minutes of video at high quality and then uploading the several gigabyte size file into youtube.

The sounds do not take much space. The "raw.avi" is about 21 MB in size unzipped and with sounds it would be about 22 MB.
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I think a better way of making a LP for this game, may be to just record the commentary in a sound file, like MP3 which produces light files.

And then have a series of decent quality screen shots on a thread.

Then you could follow the narration, with the commentator prompting you to scroll down to screen shot #2 etc...



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There's a guy who does tutorial videos for ASL (Advanced Squad Leader) using Powerpoint in a presentation type format however there was no voice, just slides with text graphics to explain things. He is now converting them to flash to include voice narration and they are pretty sharp. You can find them here: ASL Training Sessions

Might help with some ideas.
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