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February 4th, 2025, 05:07 PM
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Re: SP, MLRS and SPAA Developments
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Originally Posted by Pibwl
I've heard only about Excalibur.
I'm sure you know it, but Wikipedia says, that self-propelled guns compatible with the Excalibur projectile are the American M109A6 Paladin and M109A7, British AS-90, German PzH 2000, South African G6, Swedish Archer and French Caesar. Towed guns compatible with the Excalibur projectile are the American M198 and M777 howitzers. Also Ukrainians used Excalibur with Krab.
Current operators: Australia, Canada, Jordan, India, Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Ukraine (M777 and Krab and possibly others), and of course USA. Future or pending operators: Norway, Germany, Denmark.
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Those are the guns I have narrowed down to as a preliminary list and the nation list helps focus
We have just started exploring ways to best present them in the game as they are not "barrage" weapons
...and any thoughts I had about making forward progress just went out the window
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February 5th, 2025, 04:38 AM
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Re: SP, MLRS and SPAA Developments
Sounds like this is now a " Dead Project" but, for me I just found the website I've been missing for the last couple of years. Don knows for many years I had include this sites information for just about every submission I made.
The research was very good, and the equipment data was as well.
Then the war came along in 2024, and it seemly died with it.
You wanted country listing it had it in alphabetical order based on everything that's in our world.
I got it to open up its working on my PC. I simply changed my " search plan" to get it and it worked, so I hope it will work in here, which I'll test when I finish this post.
Where I found it from the UK
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/thr...om-gone.44256/
(29 Jan 2025 entry bottom. I believe I accidently came across this site a few years back related to their sites main objective.)
The site...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240808...tarytoday.com/
Artillery Section...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240405.../artillery.htm
(Scroll all the way down to better appreciate the work they did and how deeply they covered each section. by equipment type.)
Couple of random selected individual systems...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240321.../jupiter_5.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240522...illery/agm.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117...lery/m1992.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20230821...lery/t5_52.htm
Field Guns and Howitzers...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117...ery/trajan.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117...777_portee.htm
SPAA...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240324...y/otomatic.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117...y/marksman.htm
Fire Support/Tank Destroyers...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117..._IIIc_df90.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20230815...illery/mcv.htm
(One of the last I got from here the picture might look familiar to some.)
MLRS...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117...astros_iii.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117...lery/naiza.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240204...ery/rt2000.htm
Mortars Carriers/SPM...
https://web.archive.org/web/20231126...l_2_mortar.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240204...lery/m1287.htm
Guided Artillery Shells...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240522.../smart_155.htm
(Similar to French Bonus round.)
https://web.archive.org/web/20240315.../krasnopol.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20231204.../santimetr.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240420..._excalibur.htm
(This was a newer area a couple of years at most before going dark.)
These contributors pretty much were volunteers from many countries especially from inside Russia. Very rarely did I have issues corroborating they're data against my other references I regularly use to this day.
It at the least was my starting point most of the time once I felt comfortable with their data and fact checking. Many times, it was the " middle word" and also the " final word" but it always provided the foundation to build upon and pointed me in the right direction to further look into a piece of equipment.
I HOPE THIS WORKS If for no one else than for me at least.
I have detected that this equipment and the others on this site were manually archived be they shut down to save it somewhere safe.
Rumors at the time suggested the Ukrainian Govt. shut them down for Security reasons. Other say like KBMW they were targeted as well due to their Russian sources.
I would like to think it was a little of the first and more that they joined the fight to save their country. They were young trying to make a living and I hope when this is done that they'll be back " live" again.
EDIT: TESTED ALL SAT/HOW DO I FEEL ABOUT THIS? WELL.../MERRY F-ing Christmas! /HOW DOES CINCLANTHOME FEEL ABOUT THIS AS I JUST RECIEVED A VISITATION AT OPPS 0350-WELL SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS RIDICULES!!
Earlier day later I need to get my "6" (Maybe in more ways than one now after the visit.)!!
Regards,
Pat

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March 3rd, 2025, 07:56 PM
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Re: SP, MLRS and SPAA Developments
Whether the following has any game impact or not is to be seen.
First half on truck mounted NASAMS in Ukraine. Latter half is on where the USA is going in their system.
"According to Colonel Per Steinar Trøite, head of the Norwegian Air Force’s support department for Ukraine, the NASAMS systems deployed to Ukraine have achieved an outstanding 94 percent effectiveness rate, a figure that highlights the advanced capabilities of this air defense system in real-world combat. In an interview with Aftenposten, Norway's largest daily newspaper, Colonel Trøite detailed the significant impact of NASAMS, revealing that it has successfully intercepted over 900 cruise missiles and drones, with more than 60 percent of these targets being cruise missiles, which are notoriously difficult to defend against."
In today's world that is a very impressive success rate at having a 94% kill rate. That includes also 300+ drones.
To defeat that many cruise missiles equipped with minimal EW is excellent.
Radar can pick up and track multiple targets out to 75 miles.
"The system’s missile engagement can be executed at varying ranges depending on the type of target. For example, while the AIM-120 missile has an effective range of up to 180 kilometers against some targets, NASAMS typically engages threats at a closer range—often between 25 to 50 kilometers—to maximize interception accuracy and minimize the risk of a missile getting through. "
In the field even we use them mounted on trucks (OSHKOSH FMTV 6x6.). The USA will be fielding them in 2025/26. They were also fielded with HIMARS launchers already.
https://www.army.mil/article/145021/...ncher_program/
(The MML has since been replaced under another program. Also, in parallel an autonomous system is also being developed currently as well, also truck mounted with "chopped off" cab design.)
They as pictured are also used for " static" defense of Strategic assets such as airfields etc.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...ess-in-ukraine
Regards,
Pat

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October 10th, 2025, 06:44 AM
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Re: SP, MLRS and SPAA Developments
https://www.rheinmetall.com/en/media...ger-35-ukraine
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Rheinmetall is supplying Ukraine with further Skyranger 35 air defence systems based on the Leopard 1. The order is worth a three-digit million Euro figure. The systems are being financed by an EU country through the proceeds from frozen Russian assets. The production and integration of the systems will be carried out by Rheinmetall Italia SpA at its headquarters in Rome.
“We are grateful for the trust that Ukraine has placed in us,” said Armin Papperger, CEO of Rheinmetall AG. “We would also like to thank the EU country, for the support, which underlines our continued efforts to support Ukraine.”
The Leopard 1 Skyranger 35 combines the mobility and protection of a proven tracked vehicle with the outstanding effectiveness of a cannon-based air defence system. The Skyranger 35 is equipped with a KDG 35/1000 revolver cannon in 35 mm x 228 calibre with a firing rate of 1,000 rounds per minute. It has an effective range of up to 4,000 metres and a high degree of commonality with the Oerlikon Revolver Gun Mk 3. Thanks to AHEAD technology, the Skyranger 35 is airburst-capable. In the future, it will also be possible to equip it with modern guided missiles.
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NOTE: Tank watchers on twitter expect that these will be built on the 20-25 leftover Leopard 1A5BE hulls that Rheinmetall has in storage following stripping their turrets for spare parts.
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