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				 Well now, this kind of sucks. (Intel "quirk") 
 I am in this game with 5 or 6 other races. Only have met one so far and am at war with them. I have a decent Intelligence network up and running producing counter intel, several long running projects with decent amounts stored up. My opponent is pretty weak in that area. I am beating him pretty good strictly militarily so I dont' feel the need to waste the intel points on attacks against him. 
So he surenders, and I still ahven't met anybody else. I know they are still out there, just haven't met them yet. Problem is because there are no other races as far as my politics screen is concerned I can't assign my intel points to counter intel even and lose all the ones I have stored up.
 
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				 Re: Well now, this kind of sucks. (Intel "quirk") 
 Possible Work a Round:Use Intel to force a revolt
 Then get them to surrender.
 With a human it would require co operation.
 With the AI, You would have to hope the AI would surrender befor wiping out the rebels.
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				 Re: Well now, this kind of sucks. (Intel "quirk") 
 Possibly get one of your lesser worlds to get UNhappy enough to secede from the union? 
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				 Re: Well now, this kind of sucks. (Intel "quirk") 
 yeah, it sucks.  ask for a fix in the next patch, i guess. 
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				 Re: Well now, this kind of sucks. (Intel "quirk") 
 
	Yeh, along with topping up the points.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Puke: yeah, it sucks.  ask for a fix in the next patch, i guess.
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				 Re: Well now, this kind of sucks. (Intel "quirk") 
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				 Re: Well now, this kind of sucks. (Intel "quirk") 
 You are correct Baron Munchausen.In 1.49 - you can start Defense Projects before you meet anyone.  I think you can even do it before you build any Intelligence Centres, not that you earn any defense points.
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