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				 When to attack 
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	Hmm.  Interesting question.  So many variables.  OK, I play this way -- after the AI opponent has declared war.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Zoompet: Given the best set of circumstances, when is the best time to attack, and what are the most important factors to consider?
 |   'Course, I've been preparing for this eventuality and intend to carry it to the bitter end - their destruction and my occupation of their territory.   
 Helps to know what targets to hit.  You can probe their defenses with a sacrifice ship.  You can learn what weapons they field by observing what happens to satellites of yours they encounter.
 
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				 Re: When to attack 
 Sun Tzu and The Prince both have direct applications in SE4.  I tend to favor the latter over the former. 
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				 Re: When to attack 
 Fyron - both are references to older battle tactics and foreign relations stuff. |  
	
		
	
	
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	Which one said "don't attack until you can sweep 100 points of mines."Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Puke: Sun Tzu and The Prince both have direct applications in SE4.  I tend to favor the latter over the former.
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	Il Principe , The Prince, by Nicolo Machiavelli.  From which we get the term machiavellian -- success by any means necessicary.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Imperator Fyron: The Prince?
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 I've already quoted Sun Tsu once, let me see, something from The Prince ...
 
 OK, well, everyone building masses of weapon platforms would do well to read Chapter XX - Are Fortresses, And Many Other Things To Which Princes Often Resort, Advantageous Or Hurtful?
 
 For a quote how about...
 "a man who wishes to act entirely up to his professions of virtue soon meets with what destroys him among so much that is evil. "
 
 "Hence it is necessary for a prince wishing to hold his own to know how to do wrong, and to make use of it or not according to necessity. "
 
 {Thank you Project Gutenberg, I gave my peguin copy away}
 
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				 Re: When to attack 
 Does someone have a link to full translation of Sun Tzu's book and Prince, too? I have one Sun Tzu's translation but its rather puny... 
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