Krill & Ork Update

solops · #1 October 11th, 2002, 03:25 PM

Is this for Proportions or the standard v1.78?

Unknown_Enemy · #2 October 11th, 2002, 04:09 PM

Are the other W40000 races to be found somewhere yet ?

Atraikius · #3 October 11th, 2002, 05:16 PM

solops - they are updates for the ones in the TDM-Modpack, I was still testing some of the changes when the Last Version came out so I didn't update them then.

Unknown-Enemy - There was a Slaneesh one made a while back, otherwise John Beech had done a couple of Eldar ships, and I'm about 80-90% done with a set based on BFG Chaos ships - just don't ever seem to have the time to finish them, and The AI for them hasn't been good enough to get me to get going on finishing them.

Rexxx · #4 October 11th, 2002, 10:23 PM

Just started a game with them. Got error Messages for the Orks: Unknown value "Long Weapons Range" for Default Strategy in record [shipname]. As far as I checked these message are given for every design using the long Weapons range strategy.

A complete different topic:
You use Attack Bases. Does the game consider them as ships (join a fleet) or bases (don't join)?

[ October 11, 2002, 21:35: Message edited by: Rexxx ]

Atraikius · #5 October 12th, 2002, 01:35 AM

Posted an updated Version of the Krill and Orks. I'm still not entirely satisfied with them, but I'll never get them posted if I wait until then. Please let me know of any comments or issues with them.

1034335459.zip

Fyron · #6 October 13th, 2002, 08:43 AM

An "Attack Base" is supposed to be a Baseship. A Space Station can only defend; it cannot go on the offensive and seek out a target, which is what "attacking" is.

Atraikius · #7 October 15th, 2002, 01:51 AM

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Just started a game with them. Got error Messages for the Orks: Unknown value "Long Weapons Range" for Default Strategy in record [shipname]. As far as I checked these message are given for every design using the long Weapons range strategy.

Did you use either the 3000 or the 5000 point empire file? I haven't seen that with the 2000 point one, but I might have forgotten to make the change in the other two. Until I get the .emp files updated, you can correct this by opening the DesignCreation file, and have Long Weapons Range replaced by Maximum Weapons Range - the only diference is targeting priority.

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A complete different topic:
You use Attack Bases. Does the game consider them as ships (join a fleet) or bases (don't join)?

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An "Attack Base" is supposed to be a Baseship. A Space Station can only defend; it cannot go on the offensive and seek out a target, which is what "attacking" is.

It has to do with how the AI uses ship types. The AI will not place a Attack Base in a fleet, and will design and build Attack Bases of any size, so I use the Attack Base as a scout (in all of my races). For actual Attack Bases, I will give them a different name, and call out that specific name in the ConstructVehicle file so that they will be included in fleets when they are built.

[ October 14, 2002, 12:53: Message edited by: Atraikius ]

Atraikius · #8 October 15th, 2002, 12:54 PM

Found the problem with strategies - updated wrong .emp files when I added the Long weapons range.

Posted the updated files, along with a small change to both the krill and Ork Construct Vehicle files.

1034679079.zip

Rexxx · #9 October 15th, 2002, 05:02 PM

Hi Atraikius,
thanks for updating them. Looking forward to meeting them again in battle...

Once again Attack Bases:
When I get it right no Attack Base will join a fleet except the 1200 kt Base Ships??? Do you know the reason for this? Does it depend on the size or the max. number of engines?

Atraikius · #10 October 15th, 2002, 06:41 PM

Rexxx - I haven't seen an Attack Base that was actually a baseship join a fleet yet. In the few games I've played that went long enough for the AI to build them had them, the Base ships I saw were all by themselves.