Longdead Archery vs SC's/High Quality Summons

[OG_Gleep]

Wouldn't it depend heavily on what SC it is?

Air Path, or Water Path sc's have something in their toolbox to counter arrows. And once you see them and figure out they are a counter, getting amulets of missle protection would negate that.

What about Astral SC's, or natural Eth SCs? Do the arrows pass through their defenses?

But having an undead counter is really interesting, as a lot of thug/sc builds use life drain in some form.

[PvK]

I thought longdead attacks caused decay, which did affect undead and did not cause fatigue, no?

[Saber Cherry]

My recollection is that decay simply adds poison and fatigue to the commander every turn. Undead are immune to both, so decay won't affect them. Bane venom is described as causing a fast-acting disease, only undeads can safely carry Bane Venom Charms; Banes (the source of Bane Venom) are undead and the Lord of Banefires is undead, and neither of them are affected. So there are various precedents for Decay to only affect the living, and they agree with my memory of the mechanics.

[Wick]

Based on a small sample, being baned by an archer does 0 to 15 points of fatigue per round and, since the victims were themselves longdead archers, does effect undead. The effect is not poision.

[Saber Cherry]

I think there's poison too, but with 100% poison immunity for undead, it would never be added to the poison pool.

[Wish]

also, it seems at least some troops die at the end of combat when decay is cast on them. probably the undead.

[Chazar]

Maybe this post about decay damage by Kristoffer O helps for this discussion as well: Post#325726

...as I had already written some time ago. It also explains why high HP might sometimes be enough survive decay.