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Old June 27th, 2008, 08:56 AM

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Just a few questions/quibbles:

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If forces from different nations attack the same province on the same turn the order that the battles resolve in is deterministic based on nation number. It is NOT random as described in the rulebook. p66
Strictly deterministic? I could have sworn I have seen it switch back and forth. Could it be one of the things that either goes in order or reverse order?


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The attack current province command on a hidden unit will join any magical attack made on the province as opposed to moving during normal unit movement. p71
The hidden unit will wait until normal movement if there is no magical attack.
I'm not sure you didn't mean this, but it seemed unclear.

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Prophetizing a high-level priest is not actually a good idea. p95
A matter of opinion. Fanaticism and the boosted banishment can both be good things. I'd agree Word of Power isn't worth it. Early on getting a cheap prophet without waiting and recruiting an expensive priest may be best, but later on I'd rather have 1 H4 prophet and a bunch of H3 priests than a bunch of H3 priest one of whom is a prophetized commander.
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Old June 27th, 2008, 10:21 AM

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Strictly deterministic?
I'm pretty sure it is. Abysia always goes first IME.

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The hidden unit will wait until normal movement if there is no magical attack.
Correct, which is why Micah wrote, "will join any magical attack."

Another one: regeneration does NOT reduce the chance of battle afflictions to 1/8. It's a variable reduction, proportional to the regen percentage.

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Old June 27th, 2008, 12:06 PM
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I counted 34 issues. That's pretty good for a 300-page manual. Leaving away spell and summon lists (your issues were mostly about mechanics), it's a bit worse but still not as bad as some people like to claim.
I havent checked the list he gave yet but I feel like asking, are any of these wrong now because of fixes but werent wrong then?
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Thank you for posting this. It helps explain a few odd things and will certainly prevent some future posts. I would suggest making this a sticky.
It is majorly useful but we already have quite a few stickies.
I guess the IRC one could be unstickied.

Maybe this info could be incorporated into a sticky we already have. Like the FAQ one?
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Nice work buddy.
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If forces from different nations attack the same province on the same turn the order that the battles resolve in is deterministic based on nation number. It is NOT random as described in the rulebook. p66
Strictly deterministic? I could have sworn I have seen it switch back and forth. Could it be one of the things that either goes in order or reverse order?
Definitely either in order or reverse order.

I had a rather memorable solo game where my Agartha and the AI's Ermor blundered into each other while attacking indy provinces, twice within a span of three or four turns. In one pair of battles, Ermor attacked the indies first, then Agartha attacked Ermor. In the other pair, Agartha took the indy province first, then Ermor attacked Agartha.
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Repel mechanic works as said, but mindless units automatically take 1 point of damage from repel. An arch devil repelling dozens of 1-hp dragonflies was a wonderful sight... And surprisingly enough, a horde of morale 12 dragonflies was able to deal several points of damage to the Arch Devil.

Non-mindless dragonflies would probably be the easiest way to test the real probabilities of critical hits, if someone feels like doing that... Here's a mod if anyone wants to count how many hits dragonflies get against a heavily armored unit.

#modname "test"
#selectspell "Swarm"
#researchlevel 0
#end
#selectmonster "Dragonfly"
#mor 30
#end
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Repel interacts with mindless? Are you serious?
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I agree with the poster who suggests folding this into the FAQ. An "errata" section would be nice to have there, if Edi's ok with it.
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Repel interacts with mindless? Are you serious?
Well, repel forces a Morale roll, and Mindless beings have exceptionally high Morale.....
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