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[Cyclop]

Randy,

We should talk about some of the ending items/info from this module so we can "hook" them into your next module/world. I have some interesting info we can use to get us to your world.
With this in mind we can talk about the not having elves issue . I should be on MSN & ICQ most of the day today and tomorrow.

[Rasorow]

Define "mature". My defination is probably not in line with most peoples so lets clarify.

Since I dont have those works I probably am not interested in their use. Standard D&D AD&D however you want to call it leaves plenty of room for house rules. Just announce them ahead of time.

I wouldnt mind using a non-standard world... I made them all time time and never used a pre-fab when I DM'd. I just question the use of the word "mature"

Rasorow

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I would like to avoid feeling like I'm reading one of David Drake's darker novels. For that matter, I'd like to avoid feeling like I'm reading his lighter stuff most of the time.

[Randallw]

Ok, as 2 players would rather not (and even if it was only 1 player) i'll skip the mature stuff. I like to think of the roleplaying aspect of D&D and our sessions as an unfolding story, as a result I am trying to create in my world a story. So things do not just happen one after the other, the actions of heros and villains have a Lasting effect, starting with the creation of the world by the various gods and then recording the myriad empires that come afterwards.
To illustrate, the Elves are hated by man because when Elves were created their god was so enamoured by his creations he failed to see that he had inadvertantly placed pride in them. The Elves see themselves as the ultimate race and all others are inferior. I'm not trying to make elves evil (although their anger at being abandoned means they are susceptible to it) but they are victims of pride, they enslaved the humans because they believed the humans were unable to do what was right whereas the clearly superior Elves knew best. Humans eventually rose up and overthrew the Elves, so humans hate Elves for enslaving them and the Elves hate Humans for killing so many Elves during the uprising. Its not helped by the fact that the Elves creator died in battle with the Orc god. They are a Proud, angry race with no God to care for them.
I'm trying to instill a base sin in each major race. Elves are victims of Pride, Dwarfs are greedy staying in their underground cities hoarding their riches, and humans are full of lust (I don't mean they're hedonists, they just pursue their own pleasures more than others).

Edit: I feel I must apologise, I have just been informed of what "Mature" means and it does not cover what I was referring to. I used the term "Mature" as that is what the book is referred to as. I do not want to use such things as rape, child abuse or "snuff". I just thought using the "evil spells" and rules in the book would add flavour. Its the difference between "Inflict wounds" where you suffer damage with no explanation of what damage is caused and an "evil" spell which causes damage in the form of causing bleeding wounds. There are some things in the book I never had any intention of using such as placing a seed in someone and having them eaten alive over a few days. If its ok with players we can use them, if anyone feels uncomfortable I am ok with not using the rules.

[Randallw]

I love this comic and what with our discussing Cthulhu some time ago thought this was hilarious

http://archive.gamespy.com/comics/nodwick/ffn/ffn.htm

While I'm at it try this one. I think it particularly apt since none of us knows what we all look like (at least I don't)

http://archive.gamespy.com/comics/nodwick/ffn/ffn020.htm

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Hmm...I've never read a gaming comic with that joke in it, but I havn't been able to find very many. Correction, maybe two or three. It's kinda hard to remember, for reasons my sig makes clear.

As to your first post, I wouldn't object to: 'As the words resounded throughout the room, ringing of death and despair, five parralel slashes opened on Cedric's chest'.

If that's what your asking.

[Randallw]

I havn't heard the joke myself but having played Cthulhu once I can well imagine how it goes (much like the joke in Blackadder goes forth)

Black Adder: "Would this plan involve climbing out of the trench and marching slowly towards the enemy?"
General Melchett: "Amazing how did you know?"
BA: "Its the same plan we used Last time, and the 15 times before that"
GM "Theres only one problem"
BA "Everyone gets killed in the first 10 seconds"

[Cyclop]

Dejavu weekend for me as we have another storm "Ivan" bearing down on us. So if you don't hear from me on Monday or Tuesday I probably don't have any power.

I did lose my phone line when the people removing the stump of the avocado tree cut my phone line. I was in fear of no internet and phone line connection since repairs are taking a week or more due to the other outages in the area. Needless to say I couldn't wait so I sat down and sodered all 12 small wires for connectivity.

If anyone is curious on the storms path go here: Tracking Ivan (http://www.intellicast.com/Local/USNationalWide.asp?loc=usa&seg=StormCenter&prodgrp =TrackingCharts&product=HurTrack2&prodnav=none&pid =none)

My life has been a bit more dramatic and interesting than D&D recently. I have been hiding from three giants (hurricanes Francis, Ivan & Charlie), fighting tons of orcs (locals), a few goblins (tourists) as we all search for food, tools, shelter and gas. I have also been an Inn keeper to family and friends (since I cook well). I think I gained a few more levels of experience since I previously fought a couple other hurricanes and survived a direct hit from huge giant Andrew 11 years ago. Anyone want to join me in Miami for a live game this weekend???

[Rasorow]

LOL - Good Luck again...

Description I dont mind... like Narf mentioned.... just the other stuff I do mind...

Though I wonder about the personalities we have already begun with our characters considering the climate of the world and if we would be required to alter those personalities....

Rasorow

[Cyclop]

Good news here, the storm is passing by my area. Can everyone make it to tonight's session? I may be a few minutes late as I am heading out but I should return around 9'ish. Having an infant makes it easier to leave on a schedule.

Let me know if you can't make it tonight. I think we can finish the lair tonight ... I calculated the experience to this point and most are near or just over 10,000 so get ready to bump up to 5th level ... if you survive that is ... mwhaaa haaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaa http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

[Rasorow]

I'll be there


Rasrow

[Rasorow]

game on!!!!

[Cyclop]

Rasarow and Sulimo both gain 200 exp for showing up to the session tonight (jk).

Since we can't play with two we will need most of the group to finish the lair. I have some time Thursday and can play then if most can make it.

Please respond if you can or can't:
Rasarow = yes
Sulimo = yes
Draknor = ?
Lae'nial = ?
Wulf = ?
Grull = yes

Hope to hear from ya.

[Randallw]

does jk mean youre joking?. I have been here for Last hour but there was no server at openrpg. I am free friday (which would be your thursday)

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Sorry, I got a wisdom tooth pulled today. If you wish to complain, talk to the ARGH!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cyclop]

Narf, if you have swelling you may look more like a chipmunk than a mouse ... get better.

Rasarow, Sulimo and myself waited in the Alkhazar (sp)room from just after 9 to about 9:40. We still needed another person(Lae'nial or Draknor) to play. Has anyone heard from Draknor recently? It's been a while and the dwarf has been quiet (not even any ale belches).

So far the Thursday game list is as follows:
Rasarow = yes
Sulimo = yes
Draknor = ?
Lae'nial = ?
Wulf = Yes
Grull = yes

[Randallw]

The ALkhazar server was on there?. I honestly kept checking and never saw it. I was looking for the ALkhazar server with the SEIV room in it.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I can manage thursday. There's a little swelling and it's kinda sore, but the pains really gone down. 4 advils help, too. Thanks.

[Fyron]

Randallw said:
The ALkhazar server was on there?. I honestly kept checking and never saw it. I was looking for the ALkhazar server with the SEIV room in it.

Yes, it was there, from about 6 to 6:40 PM PST.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Is the game on today?

[Cyclop]

Yep, in about 5 hours. As long as we can get 4 out of the 6 party members there that is. So far the only one with no response that I have tried to contact is Draknor.
We should be able to NPC him if need be.
I don't expect the entire 3 hours to be needed to finish the lair, but you never know...

[Rasorow]

I hope game is on -- I will check in at 9 to see if the server is there.. but expecting to play

[Cyclop]

Server is up and running: Alkazhar
Password: ace

[Fyron]

Log posted:

http://www.spaceempires.net/dnd/adventures.php

[Cyclop]

Well the adventure is over. The ending didn't turn out as descriptive as I would have liked. I didn't want to drag it into another session so here's a better summary that may help you understand what happened:

After the Minotaur was killed, it appeared to animate from the dead just moments after it was sleighed. It just so happed that Draknor sliced the head of the minotaur off just as it rised from the ground. Everyone sees the minotaur standing with no head, both hands out toward the statue. The statue of Baphomet is in another room but mostly visible through the double doors. The minotaur's head stares at the statue.

The entire room turns bright white. It seems that a portal was opened, eminating from the statue of Baphomet. Once the portal was opened all of your movement slows down as if you could move but you have to struggle with each step. 30 seconds later your bodies float off the ground and the room starts to becomes transparant. Everyone is teleported to another land ...

****** Ending of one beginning of another *******

Now the adventure goes to the hands of Wulf (Randall). I will help him get up to speed with some of the DM'ing tools. Fyron can you give him access to the SpaceEmpires? I had a good time DM's, thanks for helping, being attentive and learning. I wouldn't rate myself very high on this Last adventure but we did have to learn how to use the OpenRPG, get to know each other and have fun. Hopefully we all had some fun and will have even more with Randall leading.

Treasure and EXP totals attached
Let me know if I made any mistakes with the treasure and assignment to people.


We should all be at 5th level now and we need to bump our characters up so we are ready for the next session.
Please coordinate with me if you need any help.
Wulf, when is our next session?

Into the Bull Minotaur's Lair
Grull - Barbarian 2 - 12232 exp
Draknor - Fighter 1 - 11081 exp
Lae'nial - Wizard 1 - 10159 exp
Sulimo Mandrallorn - Rogue - 10736 exp
Wulf - Ranger - 11025 exp
Rasarow - Ranger 1/ Cleric 1 - 10159 exp

[Randallw]

I'm happy to continue at the normal time. Feel free to bring it up if its inconvenient. WE can always discuss other times, I'm flexible.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Given that we're changing lands, would it provide any benifit to put skill points into knowledge: geography, local, nobility and royalty or history?

For hit points, do we take the maximum or the average?

[Cyclop]

I would do the HP on the honor, rolling system.
If you need a dice roller let me know.

As for the new world, our characters will be learning it as they go, since they know they were teleported and from what Randall and I have coordinated that will be part of the plot. Trying to get back to the other world.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Could I save skill points to use at a different level?

[Fyron]

Cyclop said:
I would do the HP on the honor, rolling system.
If you need a dice roller let me know.

OpenRPG has a dice roller built in. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Just put a 4 in the field for number of dice, and (+const bonus * 4) in the bonus field. Or type something like this as a chat message: [4d6 + 8]

[Cyclop]

narf poit chez BOOM said:
Could I save skill points to use at a different level?



No, all skill points should be used when they are acquired. Especially now that we are placed in a different world. Which means everything you have to this point needs to have come before the teleportation. (i.e. no arcane knowledge of new area, etc).
Hope that helps.

[Rasorow]

Randallw-

We need to get together sometime about the cleric stuff.... I will be 3rd lvl cleric and 2nd level Ranger for this adventure....

Rasorow

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Ok, thanks.

[Randallw]

I consider all natural knowledge the same eg. this is an oak tree that is a tiger. However you can't have local knowledge, such as that is an archon of the imperial guard in the 3rd dynsaty, the third dynasty was brought down by the second reformation (I'm just making up examples). Ras you say youre now a 3rd level cleric. Did you put all your xp into gaining 3 levels of cleric?.

[Rasorow]

10+k xp is 5th level so I put 3 levels into cleric and 1 lvl into ranger... this would make me a 3rd level cleric and 2nd lvl ranger and a 5th lvl overall

Rasorow

[Rasorow]

Just because I am curious what is going to happen with the items Wulf has....? Afterall he has all our gold at this point since we never went back to get paid...... and some of us need to buy supplies desperately.

Rasorow

[Cyclop]

I would assume that the group needs to work out a system for dividing the goods acquired. Such as all gold/coins/gems get divided equally. Weapons should also be placed in a pool but the person who found or acquired that item should get first picks.
Common sens also needs to be envoked if items can't be used by one should be given to another in the group. Items that know one needs (i.e. old armor, weapons, etc) those should get sold and funds divided.
As a group we need to spend some time during the next session on Tuesday to discuss the treasure and our level advancements.

Grull is now a 4th level Barbarian, 4th level Fighter

[Cyclop]

Damn I did forget to list the 23 gems that were also picked up, either in the bag of holding or by characters that were snatching items without knowing what they were.

That would add an additional 5050gp to the 3212 + 154gp (ep's converted) for a total of 8,416.

Which means each would receive 1683gp (assuming Draknor is not with us).
Or 1402gp if he makes it.

[dumbluck]

Sorry I've been away. I had a viral infection that really layed me low. I'm going back to the doctor (for a third time) on monday. However, I am slowly recovering and should be able to play again this tuesday, 9/21/04.

Um, do I need to acquire anything besides the players handbook?

[Cyclop]

Great to hear from you Draknor!
Glad to know things will be getting better. We kept Draknor warm and he's ready to go up in levels.
Getting the Player's Handbook will help a lot. Especially now that you have some levels to add. There are a ton of options. Any other book will be icing but not needed as much. Maybe the Monster Manual to help you learn more about your foes.

[Randallw]

Maybe the Monster Manual to help you learn more about your foes.



I'm not going to say you can't have the Monster Manual, but during the first adventure I made a point not to look at the Minotaur stuff.

[Fyron]

Randallw said:

Maybe the Monster Manual to help you learn more about your foes.



I'm not going to say you can't have the Monster Manual, but during the first adventure I made a point not to look at the Minotaur stuff.

Yeah... it is pretty shady (for a player) to look in the monster manual to find all the strengths and weaknesses of a monster... Cheating, IMO... It greatly detracts from the whole role playing aspect.

[Randallw]

As always FFN has a funny strip for this occasion. Background: the guy on the webcam lives in Alaska.

http://archive.gamespy.com/comics/nodwick/ffn/ffn064.htm

[Rasorow]

While I agree with you as far as you took players reading the Monster Manual... the problem is DMs dont generally make allowances for what characters would know that players dont. For example my characters universally have been ranger/clerics with undead as the favored enemy. Not one DM has bothered to ever explained the effect of weapons (sharp vs blunt) on skeletons a common undead that my character would have studied at some point either as a ranger to kill them more effectively or as a cleric as part of basic religion class. So as a player, I read the Monster Manual and had to decide for myself what the character would know.

As a DM my solution was to customize the monsters so the characters never quite knew what they were facing though I never strayed to far from the generalities in the book. The key is the book is only a guide... House Rules are invited - as long as the DM disclosing them in the beginning and sticks to them.

Rasorow

[Fyron]

the problem is DMs dont generally make allowances for what characters would know that players dont... Not one DM has bothered to ever explained the effect of weapons (sharp vs blunt) on skeletons...

Interesting. The group I played with always handled such things.

[Cyclop]

There are sooooo many details in the Player's Handbook alone, that it is hard for any group or DM to ensure each player knows them before or exactly when they are needed.
I do see a difference in opinions on the Monster Manual knoweledge as I always viewed that information as something most of the character's in the game we are playing should have some knowledge of their environment and foes. Especially a hostile one. IMO that's like someone living in Alaska, uncertain what local wildlife could be dangerous and then not knowing what a threat an African Lion could be. IMO just reading the Monster Manual for a new person helps understand the game more. Just reading what the beast can or can't do doesn't in any way imply how the DM will use them in a setting.

[Randallw]

A recent Dragon I read had an article on player irony ie. the itony of a player knowing something his player wouldn't know. As for not explaining what is happening, I consider myself a bit of a writer and relish detailing events, not for me "you attack, you hit, 4 pts dmg".

Lastly I unfortunately have something I need to say.
A few months ago I had Iritis (which if you are familiar with will know it is far from pleasant). Last week my other eye started to hurt, and as I dreaded I have Iritis again. Last time I went to the specialist for half a day, the next day I had tests, and the 3rd day I went back to the specialist. Today is the first appointment, so on wednesday (which to you all is tuesday night) I will most probably have to visit my specialist again. If the appointment is in the morning then I can't join you. If it is in the early afternoon, then I can't stay till the end. Since the start of our session would be divying up treasure we have I'll have to postpone starting my campaign, sorry.

[Cyclop]

All I can say is take care of your vision and do whatever is necessary to maintain it. I myself live at the optomatrist (sp?) and have had 7 surgeries on my left eye (two of them corneal transplants). Needless to say I have vision in only one eye and dread the day anything happens to my right one. Hence the name Cyclop, my only humor from reality.
My support is with you Randall...

[Randallw]

Hey is there a mythological monster with only one ear?. I might change my nickname. I did think the other day when it started if given the choice between vision or hearing I could say "can't I just have half of each?" (as I am already deaf in one ear, I could trick them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif). Given a choice though I would say "lose the ears/ear", as hearing is little consolation to not being able to read. I will not be at the specialist on wednesday after all though. Instead of my lense glueing to my Iris (thus Iritis, and believe me it hurts just as much as it sounds) it didn't progress so far. I put this down to my running off to the doctor when I woke up this morning with a knife in my eye, instead of sitting around for a week wondering what this peculiar feeling in my eye was (and then waking up the day I have to sit on a ferry for 8 hours, with a knife in my eye). This isn't my only problem though. I can't smell due to lots of operations on my nose as a child (flowers and trees are just annoying green things to me that irritate my allergies) , and I was already partly deaf until I developed menieres disease, with my ears also having lots of operations (you should see the scar behind my ear http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif). Its sort of a tradeoff for being double jointed and otherwise physically superior to normal people http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

[Randallw]

I usually avoid double posting but I want to make a seperate post so Rasarow will se what I have to say.

Ras, you can certainly be a cleric, in fact it will be good for us to have one. You can choose a god like Ehlonna, or another, from Cyclops world (which as Greyhawk is stock D&D mythology I think) and we will make part of the adventure your coping for the time being with being outside the gods influence (although if youve seen one Goddess of the Forest you've seen them all....or have you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif). Wulf is coming along, as apparently is Draknor now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. I'll play him as an NPC (Wulf not Draknor), now that Grull is a PC.

[Rasorow]

Then plan on part of the time figuring out how to use cleric outside of the Goddess' traditional influence, though I need to point out a cleric without their Diety is a d8 HP fighter. Spells, turning, insight all of that is based on their Deity do if possible can we resolve that first? PLEASE? Also can we come up with a standard way of dealing with the issue or we will bump around each time we handoff DMs.

Thanks

Rasorow (please note 1 a, 2 o )

PS yes I will stick with Ehlonna - it is just better that way...

PPS Of course, the forest god on this world could be nice and extend travel curtesies.

PPPS BTW How many post scripts were in Gandalf's letter to Frodo at Bree?? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Fyron]

Why don't we just stick with the same world and not change every time we have a different DM?

[Cyclop]

I doubt we will be changing DM's and/or worlds any time soon. Randall requested taking over as DM and I don't mind a bit.I can easily see this campaign Lasting much longer than our past adventure, especially since he will introduce the world and set up a longer campaign. I skipped some of those details knowing that he would take over when the time was right.

[dumbluck]

errr, ok, I'm confused now. Are we or are we not meeting tomarrow?

[Rasorow]

My understanding (and maybe I missed something) is that we are meeting tomorrow but we will be divvying up treasure, and if Randallw can make it setting the scene.

Rasorow

[narf poit chez BOOM]

As to memorizing spells, will the game start with the assumption that we have been in the world long enough to do so, or am I, to paraphrase someone else, going to have a 5d4+2 HP fighter?

[Cyclop]

Yes, meeting tomorrow but we need to keep Randall in mind for the goods to be divided (or you can tell us what items you would prefer Randall).

All levels, spells, HD, etc. will occur during transit. It is a 10 hour flight to the next world, so no meal will be served. Just the usual one sip of Coke and a small bag of 3d6 peanuts /threads/images/Graemlins/Can.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

* Lae'nial sits down and opens his spellbook.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

http://www.geocities.com/rowenaknill/jokes/xmas.html

[Randallw]

Yes I can make it. I saw the doctor yesterday and had blood taken today, but won't need to see the doctor until after the session in 2 weeks.
Ok we need to discuss some things. First off I chose my world simply because I want to have the pleasure of developing it. As always though the enjoyment of the whole group is paramount, if we want to stay where we are until we are more familiar with the game then I don't mind. I have while planning my campaign had the persistent problem that if I finish up and return us to Cyclops world and he takes back control what will we do if I become DM again, transport the whole group back to my world?. We'll end up with the group being bounced from one world to the next like a.....bouncing group thing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif (which is bad as my world is different to the normal settings, its not like travelling from Oerth to Toril to Krynn). I can see that it may be annoying. Tomorrow when we meet to share the treasure I suggest we use some of the time to discuss where we want to go. As a DM I favour a free approach. I have the general plot worked out but like the idea of not setting everything in stone so that we can progress as things develop and as such havn't wasted time writing down everything. If it is preferable I'll place us somewhere on Oerth and change the evil parties and npcs to having Oerth allegiances not my own worlds.

Player: "aha, I killed the evil sorceror"
DM "...um, he survives having his head cut off." damn I need the sorceror to be the archvillain in the next 5 sessions

If the group feels they do not wish to make things complicated I can freely leave my missions on Oerth (Cyclops world). In the future we could start a new campaign using my world if we all agree.

I have considered the limitations of clerics not having their god, and did have a fix that can apply to Rasorow since he's only 3rd level, as well as including the problem as part of the campaign (I see problems like "how can my cleric cast spells?" as an oppurtunity to add a subplot). As for getting more spells, I wasn't going to drop the group into a fight (well maybe a little one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif) but get you introduced first.

[Cyclop]

I am up for change and willing to support in any way.

Here's a great site for OpenRpg mini's and graphics. OpenRpg minis (http://rivendell.fortunecity.com/spell/1066/Miniatures/Fantasy)

[Randallw]

Just used this post to transfer maps to Cyclops.

[Fyron]

We haven't even really seen much at all of the current campaign world. A mountain pass trade route could probably be incorporated into your campaign world Randallw without much effort. Just forget about the names of cities mentioned previously and replace them with cities in your world. Don't even need the teleporting. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

The problem is not so much switching worlds, as it is switching worlds a lot, as you mentioned... Might as well play Planescape or Spelljammer if that is going to happen. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Fyron]

Randallw, how are you going to handle weird, wacky house rules, such as ignoring the basic principles of the combat system (ie: the action system)?

[Rasorow]

LOL I wondered Fryon how long it would take you to ask that question.

In all honesty, if speaking about gods who is to say that the gods/goddesses of Oerth are not the Gods/Goddesses of your world Randallw? It was really generic in the Deities presented. Your Deities could be the Deities of Oerth also. Or they could be the Old GODS, and the documented Gods could be the new Gods.

I appologize about being a little gunshy of the swtiching Gods thing but if played and DMed properly a cleric loses all powers if not in contact with their god. If that contact is tenous then the cleric is weakened. Confronting a Evil in their own sacred shrine is difficult enough (bonus to all evil critters minuses to good clerics and Pallys) without already suffering from Dietius Absentus.

We can discuss it tonight in detail and decide then.

Rasorow

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I think the 'travel courtesy' idea would be easiest. After all, a D&D universe could easily have inter-planetary diety alliances.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

My 3.5 PHB lists Decipher Script under the class skills for wizards; I already have ranks in that. Can I keep it? Increase it?

[douglas]

Could I join this campaign?

[Fyron]

douglas said:
Could I join this campaign?

With the reoccuring lack of full sized parties showing up, I do not think it would hurt to have another player... It is really up to the DM, Randallw, however. To get started, visit the Getting Started section of the web site:

http://www.spaceempires.net/dnd/

[Rasorow]

Ummm is Game On??? Or not? I dont see the SEIV room

Rasorow

[narf poit chez BOOM]

We are chatting. Dividing treasue, solving problems, summoning demons...

Well, some people think so.

[Cyclop]

Updated treasure list.
Pretty painless, no blood shed this time.

[Fyron]

You left too early!

Did we ever get to open that treasure chest in one of the middle rooms? I think it was where the orc captians and their mates were... We sort of glossed that room over in the hustle to move on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Cyclop]

Ahh, the forgotten item. I assumed the small chest was left behind. No one opened it, since it was locked then it was forgotten about after the goblin came into the room.
I reviewed and re-reviewed the log and I couldn't find a statement saying the item was picked up and taken. It was rather large so it wouldn't fit into a pocket.
Let me know if anyone reads anything in the log that implies ownership of the item. View Log (http://www.spaceempires.net/dnd/adventures/09-16-04.html)

The best I could find is Fyron searching the room for the Last time (right before leaving for dinner).

I could assume that Sulimo was holding it or kept it when he was searching for traps. Give me your feedback as I feel the item was left, due to the rush the characters seemed to be facing. At the best, someone has it (probably Sulimo) and it's still locked. I could picture Sulimo all cuddled up in a corner while the group is asleep, trying to pick the lock to see what goodies lie within. Looking over his shoulder seeing if anyone else is trying to claim the prize.

As a group we need to keep all our character actions in the ** Grull takes item and places it in back pack ** as well as OOC: All elves smell funny and I didn't draw those lines on the map. Sulimo is right when it comes to keeping the format, makes the DM's job slightly easier.

[Rasorow]

The chest is where we got the scrolls and Lae'nial has 1 bottle of oil according to the log......

Rasorow

[narf poit chez BOOM]

That's what I remember, now that my memories been jogged. Unless there was another small chest.

[Fyron]

Noone ever opened the small chest I am thinking of. I was in the process of doing skill checks when Cyclop decided to throw a goblin into the mix, which was not funny at all... Noone did anything with the chest afterwards, even though I said this:


(3) Sulimo Mandrallorn: OOC: Time for dinner... make sure to search this place for items before heading out... esp. that chest that we never resolved... back in a bit

This would imply that Sulimo was still dealing with the chest...

Also, is Search the skill that is used for finding traps, or Spot?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

search, in 3.5

(1) Cyclop: Inside the chest is a small vile of oil, some liquid, and 4 scrolls

[Cyclop]

"Search" skill if you are actively looking.
"Spot" if you are about to fall into or see a trap, enemy, item, etc.

I recall someone searching the small chest and not finding any traps but not being able to open the locked small chest. It actually has a wizards lock on it so a pick lock attempt will not work. I know the contents of the small chest were not given out since this is the item Thom was requesting and he had the ability to open it (or any wizard with the proper spell).

If Lae'nial can open it, your in business. If not I will send the content information to Wulf for later use.

[Fyron]

narf poit chez BOOM said:
search, in 3.5

(1) Cyclop: Inside the chest is a small vile of oil, some liquid, and 4 scrolls


There was more than one chest...

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I didn't think to get knock, but since a spell can counter itself - do you mean Arcane Lock? I couldn't find a Wizards Lock. I have arcane lock; could I use it to counter or override the one on the chest?

[Fyron]

Doesn't countering only work when the spell is being cast, not on an existing spell? You need dispel magic for that.

[Cyclop]

Correct, counter spell only on a caster not object. Only way to open it is with Dispel Magic since it was a magical lock (not the name of the spell that locked it, just the state).
Now the real question is ... are the contents worth more than the Dispel Magic Spell? Thom thinks so...

[Fyron]

Well Thom is in a differnt world/dimension and we can't get back to him... Not a very good way to end the adventure, getting cheated out of all our payment and all... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[douglas]

You could ask the new psion to open it. I might pick knock as one of my powers known.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Isn't there a rule somewhere about overriding an old spell with a new spell?

Or we could go with Douglas's suggestion.

[Cyclop]

People get cheated out of payments all the time ... but think of it another way, could the contents be worth more than the payment for the retrieval of the item? Most would think so unless the item has personal value.

I had dispel magic as the only way to open the item. Knock in my mind would open a arcane locked door and I feel could be applied to the lock of a small chest. This could be my Last decision as a DM to allow Knock to open the chest ...

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Knock suppresses an Arcane Lock locked lock for ten minutes.

^ Look! Three in sequence without breaking sentence structure!

Arcane lock is permanent.

[douglas]

Knock targets allowed: "One door, box, or chest with an area of up to 10 sq. ft./level"

So, the only question is whether the chest is locked with something more powerful than the 2nd-level Arcane Lock spell.

[Cyclop]

Now the real question is, do we have knock as a spell?

[douglas]

We will as soon as my psion joins the party.

[Cyclop]

Well another weekend approaches and what does that mean for everyone in south Florida? Time for another hurricane. Everyone should know the drill by now. If you don't hear from me on Tuesday, play without me. Good news is the show can go on now. I will add my updated charactersheet of Grull. I need to go over the skills section and add the +2 waraxe but he's ready for some canon fodder.
Hopefully hurricane Jeanne will spare us but who knows...

[Rasorow]

/me Rasorow casts spell of Dispel Hurricane on Hurricane Jeanne.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Good luck.

[Cyclop]

Here's Grull just in case.

[douglas]

Here's my new character. I've decided there's no need to extend ignorance of his race beyond the characters, so, he's an Elan Psion Kineticist who has taken a vow of poverty. The small amount of money he has is strictly reserved for beggars and other miscellaneous charitable works. As far as the other characters can tell, at least at first glance, he's just a poor human wanderer on his way to nowhere in particular. All his stuff - what little there is of it - looks a tad bit worn, but his crossbow is definitely in good condition.

I've found a miniature I'd like to use, but I can't get it to work in OpenRPG. http://rivendell.fortunecity.com/spell/1066/Miniatures/Fantasy/Wizards/mage1a1.gif

[Randallw]

gifs don't work on openrpg. I made it into a jpg and uploaded it but can't find the folder on spaceempires.
Fyron, I uploaded it to the portraits folder, but can't access it since the available web page is dnd/images NOT portraits.

[Fyron]

Gifs work fine. The files/public/portraits folder works fine as well. It can be browsed from the web. I loaded Grull.gif in there in OpenRPG without issue.

I may or may not be able to host the server on Tuesday, depending on whether I can divine access to this router or not... (I have moved back to university and it is my roommate's router).

[Rasorow]

Hey, I have a minor problem and may not be there Tuesday or may be late. (then again I maybe waiting for everyone.....) Randallw you should have my char... someone can play it if I am not there.

Rasorow

[Fyron]

6:00 PM PST on Tuesdays isn't going to work for me anymore... I have a lab to attend which does not end until 6:30. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif This first lab is supposed to be short, so tomorrow should not be an issue...

[narf poit chez BOOM]

So? We generally don't really start until 6:30 anyway.

[Randallw]

Ok well everyone one can take a bit longer turning up. I'll assume a later start of around 1/2 an hour. As Narf said we don't usually start exactly on the normal time anyway. Considering Fyron now has new commitments can we discuss a possible different time we can all fit in.

[Randallw]

The server is set up and some of us have arrived.

[Fyron]

Adventure log for "The Dark Knife" posted:

http://www.spaceempires.net/dnd/adventures.php

[Cyclop]

Any ideas or suggestions on a new game time/day? It's on Fyron's server so he should suggest some times...

[Fyron]

Do we want to stick with the same time frame on a different day, or what?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

It took us a while to get tuesday 6:00(my time) decided on, I'd rather just keep it there, even if it's half an hour later. But I have no objections to any time within -10 of that. I'm trying to get to sleep somewhere between 9 and 11, so I wouldn't want it later that 6:30(my time).

[dumbluck]

hehehehe. Is that when the session ended? but I'm thinking I'm gonna like this paladin....

/me growles at Sulimo....

The current time-frame is pushing my bedtime as it is. Another half hour later will be very difficult. Perhaps, just maybe, another alternative could be found? I'm available at the same time, monday - friday. Sat/sun is very flexible.

[Rasorow]

Pally.... stupid pally about to attack a good cleric.... easy way not to be a pally anymore.....

Anyway...

the time is fine for me I just had an issue to take care of this week. I dont want it to go any later regardless of when we start. I have to be at work in the morning and then to class after work so my days are long enough. Midnight (my time) is already pushing it. I dont see why we cannot start a half hour later for those who have class... (wasnt that you Fyron? I forget - tired) It just cannot go later then midnight EST. (my time)

Rasorow

[Fyron]

Erm... it is not 30 minutes later, more like 45 to an hour, depending on circumstances... And given how long it usually takes to get started...

[narf poit chez BOOM]

So, the rest of us log on at the normal time and work out whatever until you come on. Then we all ignore your problems because there's no time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[douglas]

I can play any weekday or Sunday from 7 pm to 1 am Eastern Time. I have a problem for next week, though. I'll be taking a defensive driving course on Tuesday and Thursday, IIRC.

How much xp did we get for the cleric and skeletons?

Don't forget that the arcane locked chest is still unresolved.

Which world is my character from, Cyclop's or Randallw's?

[Fyron]

You don't get any EXP until the adventure is over. The DM keeps track of everyone's EXP and assigns it at the end of the adventure.

[Randallw]

I was considering the xp issue today. If you like I can put together the xp. Douglas, I was thinking your character could be from some nation on my world that uses psionics. There is plenty of space apart from my established kingdom and It would be no trouble to fit it in. Perhaps he was meditating and something happened with his psionics transporting him at the same time as the others.

[douglas]

Ah, so instead of saying "WTF do you have against elves?!", I'll think "Oh, so I'm somewhere in *that* country."

For xp, I'm just used to it being done at the end of every session, not waiting for the adventure to finish.

As for Shaorin's place of origin, he could be from anywhere, but he likely wasn't anywhere near where he was born at the moment when the unexpected teleportation occurred. He tends to wander a lot. Just to avoid some issues with in-party conflicts, I'll assume he grew up somewhere elves are not particularly hated.

[Cyclop]

During a long campaign you can divide XP's at resting points. If you recall I did give out XP's just before the group entered the lair since a few members did face some encounters. Rasarow I believe had enough to go up to second level.

As for the sealed chest I will send Randall the contents so our Psion can open it at a rest point. If you shake it hard enough you may hear a +10 Orc Battle Axe, A sure shot barbarian bow, and an orc spear of returning inside the small handheld chest(jk);)

I can meet on Mon-Thurs from 8:30pm to midnight EST.

[douglas]

+10? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif I didn't know we were into epic levels already! Sounds like the chest itself is a bag of holding, too.

Not only can I open the chest, but given a day per item I can identify the contents without need for that pesky 100 gp pearl wizards have to use http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Including activation and charges?

[douglas]

Yes. Psionic Identify's description is simply "As the identify spell, except as noted here," and in 3.5 Identify learns everything about an object instead of just its weakest ability. The exceptions noted are that it's second level instead of first, takes a day to manifest instead of an hour to cast, and, like all psionic powers, has no somatic, verbal, or material components.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I guess that's balanced...As long as they either get rid of the gp cost or use it for both.

[douglas]

Oops, seems my defensive driving course is on Monday and Wednesday instead.

[Rasorow]

Did we ever decide what we are going to do for times?

I cannot do Mondays. Weekdays work the best for me as I have commitments on the weekends. Also If we could go 8EST to 11EST instead of 9EST to 12 EST that would be best.

Rasorow

[dumbluck]

I like those times better myself, but can still use the original 9est to 12est. Any weekday works equally well for me. Even saturday at that time could be made to work, but not Sunday. (I'm bowling that night)

[Randallw]

Douglas, you say you're doing defensive driving on wednesday. Is that at night during the usual time?.

[douglas]

Yes

[Randallw]

It is becoming clear that the usual time is not convenient anymore for some of us. Fyron has classes, Douglas has driving and Rasorow can't accomodate extra time after the usual session, while Narf can't accomodate starting slightly later. Apart from Rasorow and Douglas not being available on mondays, are there any other days not available for some of us?, I know many of you said any day was available but some of you may just have the same odd day. Fyron do you have lab at the usual time any other day?. Narf, I notice you say something about "within 10 of that" can you please clarify, do you mean 10 minutes?.

I have a flexible schedule and can change to any day of the week.

[Fyron]

The International Date Line strikes again... in the US, the sessions are on Tuesdays. Douglas having driving class on Wednesday does not interfere with the currently scheduled sessions.

[Randallw]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif. Damn, I knew this. Why was I thinking we played on wednesday/thursday http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I call 'em brain farts.

What I meant was any time within -10:00 hours of our starting time.

[Rasorow]

I can do weekdays with the exception of Monday.

I cannot do weekends as I already prior to this, have commitments.

I can do 9-12 EST but would prefer if not a big deal with everyone else 8 - 11 EST as I get up around 5:30AM for work.

Rasorow

[douglas]

My driving class is a one-time thing, this week only. Next week and after, any weekday will do for me.

[Randallw]

So Fyron, will you be able to set up the server tonight/tomorrow?

[dumbluck]

er, so are we gaming tonight?

[Randallw]

Its a bit confusing for me at the moment. We recently changed to daylight savings. I have prepared at what for me is now 10am (instead of 11am, the usual time) but there is now some doubt if this is indeed what used to be 11am or if it is indeed 9am. Hopefully when I post this the time will show in the post.

Edit: it appears I got confused. Instead of preparing an hour early I should have been an hour later than usual, so I am in fact 2 hours early. This in fact means for me we will go till 3 pm. I have a doctors appointment at 3.30pm.

[dumbluck]

Well, if it clears things up some, the OLD time starts in roughly 1 hour and 15 minutes.

[Fyron]

Lab ended early today, so I am home now.

[douglas]

10 minutes to 9, and I still don't see the server up. Are we playing tonight or not?

Edit: server's up, but it'd be nice to have more than two players

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Sorry. I totally forgot.

[Rasorow]

I didnt even check after 6pm.... May I suggest that we pick up next week Wed from 8pm EST until 11pm EST? Fyron does this work with your school? Douglas your driving is over then correct? Randallw does this give you good prep time?

Is it cool for everyone else?

Rasorow

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Um...How does that translate to the west coast(BC)?

[Rasorow]

hmmm thats 5pm PST time till 8pm PST time.... dont know anything other then that......... does that help?

Rasorow

[Fyron]

I might be able to do 5:30 PM PST on Wednesdays...

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Yep, thanks.

[Randallw]

Rasorow said:
I didnt even check after 6pm.... May I suggest that we pick up next week Wed from 8pm EST until 11pm EST? Fyron does this work with your school? Douglas your driving is over then correct? Randallw does this give you good prep time?

Is it cool for everyone else?

Rasorow



Apart from one day later, and I have no problem, this would end up as the same time as usual for me. We just started daylight savings and I discovered Last session this would have allowed me an extra hour in bed :sigh:

[Randallw]

So you all want to start an hour early on wednesdays?. I've actually had hayfever on and off for the Last week and so havn't felt like organising myself, so an extra day will be a relief. Good thing I have everything I prepared for Last week http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Rasorow]

I think its a half hour early as Fyron said he cannot make 5:00 but might be able to make 5:30 (PST).. or if its an issue to move earlier we can leave it 9 - midnight on Wednesday. Wednesday works better for me to the point that I would rather do Wednesday 9-midnight (EST) then Tuesday 8-11 (EST). But what about Douglas, Dumbluck, and others?

Rasorow

[douglas]

Pretty much any evening on a weekday will do for me. Wednesday 8-11 or 9-12 is just fine.

[Fyron]

So are we doing (American) Tuesday or Wednesday?

[Randallw]

so far there is either a consensus that either day is fine or wednesday is preferred. I will assume that wednesday is better, but we still need to hear from dumbluck and Narf, and cyclops (who I haven't heard from in the Last week and who was absent Last week. Perhaps there's a problem).

Edit: to be clear, I assume no tuesday session.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I thought I said wednesday is fine?

Well, in case I didn't, wednesday is fine, along with monday, tuesday, thursday, friday.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

400th!

[Fyron]

Ok, I going to assume that we will not be gaming tonight, so will not be setting up the server today...

[Randallw]

Ok, so we go tonight. I'll assume the same time as usual though (9-12)

[narf poit chez BOOM]

It's on.

[Fyron]

Where is everybody? This is a disturbing trend... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

I will need updated info for the web site on your new character levels and all that fun stuff.

http://www.spaceempires.net/dnd/party.php

[Randallw]

Yes, I agree with Fyron. We all have a life outside the game, and can have other things to do, its no ones fault. We may need to consider if it is viable though to have more than 3 people at any session.

[Fyron]

Right. But it only takes a minute or two to log on and say, "I won't be able to make it today guys."

Log posted on the site.

http://www.spaceempires.net/dnd/adventures.php

[Cyclop]

Sorry guys. Fyron is right about the advance notice. My life has been hectic and I have left about 20 mental notes on the forum but not one of them made it from my mind to the keyboard as something always came up at work or home and detoured me for a few minutes.
I have a lot less time now as my current job is more demanding (actually have to work 10 hours a day) and my home life is more demanding (wife leaving on business). I can easily say that the past two weeks and next two weeks are impossible for me to be available.
I'd hate for Grull not to be in the party so if Randall or anyone else wants to use him please do. Sorry for the lack of response, no excuses are good enough there. I am depressed that I can't commit to playing since I love D&D and looked forward to Randall's world. I will try and keep in touch.
Happy adventures,
Cyclop

[Randallw]

In particular I want to point out to Rasorow that i'd like to know what will happen to his character. I have come up with a background story to facilitate his being a cleric in a new world, and I don't wish to take away control of his character by saying "Well in the first session Rasorow did this, then he did this the second session and during the third session he did this"

[Rasorow]

Right now Rasorow does not have an internet connection at home which is why I was not on Last night. Sorry about that. At work now but can only steal a couple of minutes while eating.

Basic background is

orphan - no parents
Raised in monestary
befriended by old ranger and worshiper of forest god(dess)
learned undead killed his home village but parents unknown
Hate undead with passion (likely to mix it up as much as turn them)

sorry never got around to writing that...

Gotta go - meeting time. will post when connection working likely sometime this weekend though

Rasorow

[Fyron]

Imperator Fyron said:
I will need updated info for the web site on your new character levels and all that fun stuff.

http://www.spaceempires.net/dnd/party.php

bump

[Randallw]

Sorry, there is some confusion about the term "Background". What I meant is that alongside the actual campaign I have come up with a sequence of events that coincide where Rasorow comes to terms with being a cleric in a new land.

[Rasorow]

ok sorry, Cool. I hope to have functioning Internet sometime tomorrow. Currently at work again.

Rasorow

[Rasorow]

It works... I have connectivity again from home so I will be there....

Rasorow

[Rasorow]

I am assuming that we are playing tomorrow but will check tonight to make sure about 8pm. Hopefully someone other then me will post.....

Rasorow

[narf poit chez BOOM]

*Post* http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

I see no reason why I couldn't make it tommorrow.

[dumbluck]

ok, this is.... wierd.
To sum up my absence, upgrading OpenOffice killed the laptop. I had been assuming (apparently incorrectly) that it was the only functional computer in the house. (As some of you may recall, I was having lots of problems with the desktop). So that's why I've been gone.

However, I tried one Last time to turn on the desktop before I called the computer doctors back, and it started right up!!!! So, uh, I guess it's fixed....... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

Anyway, Wednesdays are fine with me. Is the starting time 5 PST, or 5:30 PST (7 or 7:30 my time)

[Randallw]

5 I believe then. However we don't usually start for half an hour while we wait for everyone to arrive.

[Rasorow]

See everyone in three hours. 8pm EST/5PST

Rasorow

[dumbluck]

well, the computer apparently remembered that it was supposed to be broken, because it's back to it's same old trick of freezing mid-boot. On this plus side, it will at least boot up completely in safe mode (which it wasn't doing before it went to the computer doctor.)

Needless to say, assume I won't be around until you hear from me again. (now if I can just get the computer doctor to answer the phone....)

[Rasorow]

See everyone tonight 8EST, 5PST

Rasorow

[Randallw]

I have corresponded with Cyclops and he is too busy these days to participate, so Grull won't be taking much part for awhile. I am wondering, do we want to bring in anyone new if they are interested?.

[Rasorow]

Havn't heard from Cyclops or seen any Posts so I dont know about that.

We need more then Draknor as a Tank. Especially since we dont have Wulf's archery any more. We have lost three effective fighters. Grull, Wulf (archer and back-up Melee if absolutely needed but he could protect the mage and rear), and Rasorow (Combat spell caster/healer mainly now. Cannot/should not take to many risks in battle (but he will...) as need to be able to heal others not self afterwards). Thats 75% of our primary fighters.

Sulimo has been great about stepping up but we need another tank. At least that is my view.

Rasorow

[narf poit chez BOOM]

As the mage, I really must second the notion of another character between me, my tender skin and sharp, pointy things.

[Rasorow]

Lae'nial (Narf) what are you worried about? You haven't even had to look in your spellbook - you're to deadly with that bow.

Rasorow

[Fyron]

First level wizards are dismal spellcasters, and we have only had 1 real battle since 5th level... Not to mention that Narf opted for enhancing spells rather than brute force damaging ones...

[Rasorow]

ummmm, was actually trying to tease Narf about being such a good archer.... He has made shots that both rangers missed.

Rasorow

[Randallw]

I have just realised that I have an appointment tomorrow. I just recieved a form from the government and wondered if it was the same as the one telling me to come to an appointment this week.

"I wonder if its like that appointment noitice I got Last week" I thought "Oh no, the appointment!"

Its right in the middle of our session and I don't think they would accept the "I have to play D&D" excuse to reschedule. I should have made the connection when I got the letter, sorry. It will perhaps give us the opportunity for another player to turn up.

[Rasorow]

Should we make a post somewhere or change the thread name (dont even know if that is possible) to alert people we are looking for another player? Are we actually looking for another player? Narf weighed in but Fyron, Dumbluck, and Douglas have yet to express an opinion.

Rasorow

[Randallw]

Ok, I've tried to prepare some material for tonight. If there are any problems please post a reply. I have just finished my government scheme so I am now available any day.

[Rasorow]

So game on tonight 8pm EST 5pm PST? Cool, will be there.

Rasorow

(wonders if stupid pally will need an education when the arch-bishop isnt looking)

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I will be there (if only to keep the yahoo's in check).

[Randallw]

Well its been 30 minutes and no server. I hope Fyron is ok. I am hesitant to call off the session but theres nothing I can do. I shall investigate how I can make my own server in the future. I discussed it with Fyron but it will involve me working out how to open a hole in my firewall. Anyhow, I'll check back in 10-15 minutes but if nothing develops, sorry. We can wait till next week or reschedule.

Edit:I'm thinking there has been a time change I am unaware of.

[Fyron]

Erm... It is still 15 minutes until the starting time...


Edit:I'm thinking there has been a time change I am unaware of.

Daylight savings time did occur a week and a half ago... It is presently 4:48 PM PST...

[Randallw]

Damnit!

[Fyron]

So are you coming or what? /threads/images/Graemlins/icon46.gif

[Randallw]

yes, I've set up the room. I was just annoyed at having rushed to finish some stuff when I still had an hour left.

[Rasorow]

BTW... Should we purchase some basic supplies that Draknor might need? I havnt seen Dumbluck for awhile now. I know he's got computer issues and I would hate to have us buy equipment for Draknor instead of Dumbluck but was thinking that maybe we should pick up a couple of items (ale flasks, ale, ale flasks, more ale, some rations, more ale, I think would be among his choices, maybe a healing potion or two as well - Ale flavored of course) if Dumbluck wont be on before we headout again which it seems we will do next session.

Rasorow

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Ras - While your character is out, could you get mine a wand of magic missiles(1st) and a wand of enlarge? Thanks.

[Rasorow]

Will see what I can do Narf.

Rasorow

[Randallw]

Wands!. What do you think I am, Magic items R us?. Why don't you try to buy a vorpal sword while you're at it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

[douglas]

Make that a +5 keen, vorpal, dancing, undead bane, holy, flaming burst, shocking burst, icy burst, thundering, wounding, ghost touch, and speed greatsword please http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Randallw said:
Wands!. What do you think I am, Magic items R us?. Why don't you try to buy a vorpal sword while you're at it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.


And while I'm here, might I point out that as a 5th level character I should have 5,332gp - After shopping for each level? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Randallw]

narf poit chez BOOM said:
as a 5th level character I should have 5,332gp - After shopping for each level? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif



I'm afraid I don't understand the reference http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif. However I did discuss things with Rasorow and have come to the conclusion that I shall have to fit in a haul session or mission. ALthough I have been planning a story driven plot, I can see the need for the party to gain extra funds & items.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Level/Treasure table in the DMG, page 54 in v3.5. Breifly:

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
Level | Expected Wealth Gain | Treasure From Encounters | Treasure Per Character
1st | 900 | 3,999 | 1,000
2nd | 1,800 | 7,998 | 2,000
3rd | 2,700 | 11,997 | 2,999
4th | 3,600 | 15,996 | 3,999
5th | 4,000 | 21,328 | 5,332
</pre><hr />

Expected Wealth Gain: What the character should gain while reaching his next level
Treasure from encounters: This is the average treasure value from table 3-3: Treasure Values per Encounter multiplied by 13.33 encounters.
Treasure per Character: This is Treasure from Encounters divided by 4, the expected party size. The amounts are rounded to the nearest gold piece.

This goes all the way to 0.8 million for 19th level characters. Obviously, D&amp;D is not an exercise in applied economics. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Wether you want to follow this table or not and how closely is up to you.

Additional note:
'Given the hoardes of monsters and heroes running around, any rationally constructed D&amp;D world would be de-populated within approximatly one month for the general population. Survival of higher-level beings is indeterminate. Given that the D&amp;D power level continues to infinity, reality would probably be destroyed at an indefinite point after it's creation, unless beings of all power levels were also created, the result of which cannot be determined.' - Narf.

[Rasorow]

hmmm, While I think we are a little under equiped - especially since we are without a tank. I dont think we are that badly off. Remember we also went to 5th level in 1 adventure and if I remember correctly level jumps like that are not allowed.

Also recently purchased party affecting items....

4 healing potions
2(or 3? have to check logs) flasks of Holy Water.
Healer's bag
2 flasks of Oil

some other items were purchased on my side trip but these were the main ones.

Rasorow

[douglas]

Actually narf, I think the table you're looking for is the starting gold for higher-level characters on page 34 or 35. A 5th level character should have about 9000 gp worth of cash and equipment.

[Randallw]

I must warn you that tomorrow may be delayed or postponed. I hate having to do this since we had no session a mere 2 weeks ago, however it is vital I see my doctor tomorrow. I will try to make an appointment 5 seconds after he opens but can never be sure of the time.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Doctors appointments are more important than games.

[Rasorow]

If you are there, you are there, if not we can always reschedule.

Rasorow

[Randallw]

I have gotten an appointment this afternoon (aparently even ringing up 5 seconds after they open won't get you a morning appointment). As well as putting the game off till another time I am also going to post asking if anyone else wants to join (that is if Narf hasn't stolen all the other people interested http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif)

Edit: I'll put off the new thread until I hear what the group thinks.

[Rasorow]

Cool with me, especially tanks!! Are we going to try to pick this up tomorrow? Also what lvl are you bringing the person in as?

Rasorow

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Probably not. It's not like I'm running an epic campaign. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Randallw]

I don't know if anyone is available at a different time. Would the group want anyone new to be the same level or are you opposed to someone waltzing in at the same level you all worked to get?. I imagine they would be a guard or similar posted to help the group.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

They can waltz in. But doing so would definitly look weird, outside of the duchesses' grand ball and I doubt we're going to get invited to &gt;that&lt; any time soon.

[Rasorow]

Oh I dont know Narf, I am sure we could persuade our friend the Pally to get us an invitation :-)

Especially if we look the other way while Fyron does the "talking".

I am available Thursday (today), Friday, and Sunday at the normal times. Actually Friday I can do later as well since I dont have to get up for work.

Rasorow

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I'm available today. And tommorrow. And the day after that. To the best of my knowledge.

[Rasorow]

Errr, sorry, counter reset for some reason and I was looking at the beginning again

Rasorow

[Rasorow]

Tonight 8pm EST 5pm PST? Everyone going to be able to make it?

Rasorow

[douglas]

Not this time. I'm going home for Thanksgiving and leaving my good internet connection behind. I'll still have dialup, but it blocks the only phone line in the house, so mom doesn't like it being used for long periods of time.

[Randallw]

I woke up this morning wondering about Thanksgiving. I was hoping to start the actual mission but without Douglas it wouldn't be fair to get started. We may have to make do with some sort of one off, although I can't think what we could do.

[Fyron]

It is now 20 minutes past start... where are the rest of you guys?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Sorry...We thought there was a virus on the computer. Turns out, just a couple .rar files that the virusscanner ocasionally can't read and gets hung up on.

[Rasorow]

Only response I saw was a cannot show...

Anyway I am (WARNING) assuming (DANGER)that we are on for Wednesday 8 EST 5 PST since there are no holidays this week?

Rasorow

[Fyron]

Unless explicitly stated otherwise, it should always be assumed that the session is scheduled to occur every week...

[douglas]

I'll be there.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I'm pretty sure I can make that one.

I'm getting a 160Gig HD. Then, I'm going to backup the HD's, archive it in nice 640Meg bites and stick it on CD's.

[Rasorow]

Game On!

[Randallw]

It's a good thing we had all agreed to move to Thursday/Friday, we did all agree didn't we?, because I have been told to attend an interview on Thursday afternoon (my time). I wasn't sure so I tried to get another time but there wasn't one.

[Rasorow]

Yes, I think we worked it out to be 1pm Friday your time, 6pm PST, 9pm EST and I at least agreed. Dont know about the others.

Rasorow

[Fyron]

Be there or be square! /me ducks from rotten fruit thrown at him

[Fyron]

I have redesigned the web site. What do you think? http://www.spaceempires.net/dnd/

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Looks all nice and organized.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Hey, it's five oh'clock and I don't see no server! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[douglas]

Foolish mouse, you're an hour too early. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

It's been moved back, too?

[Fyron]

Today was kind of arbitrary... but starting in January, 6 PM Thurs. will about all I can do...

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Yeah, I got that. I just didn't know we had moved from 5 to 6. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Request: Somewhere along the way, sometime, we find a peice of advanced technology. Done right, it could be fun. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Fyron]

A modern day electronic mouse trap, perhaps?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Crashed spaceship, remains of an ancient technological civilization, technological enclave, dimensional traveler(s).

[Rasorow]

think Wizardry V or VI or Might and Magic IV or Ultima 3 or..... along those lines?

Rasorow

[Randallw]

I am certain I saw a AD&amp;D book once that was about a fantasy party discovering a crashed spaceship. I can't find it however listed on the site I usually find old books.

http://www.svgames.com/downloads.html

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Rasorow said:
think Wizardry V or VI or Might and Magic IV or Ultima 3 or..... along those lines?

Rasorow


Never played any of those.

[Rasorow]

You're missing out.. they are old now so you will have to forgive them that, but the Wizardry and Ultima series are (in my opinion) THE all time CRPG classics and worthy of founding the CRPG hall of fame.

The older Might and Magics are also great and the Original Bard's Tale series (not that thing thats out now for the X-Box or whatever)

Rasorow

[Randallw]

I had hoped to get another session in before breaking for christmas, however I have been told to paint one of our bathrooms before my sister arrives next week. So what with cleaning it and then painting I won't have time to prepare or run a session. We'll have to wait till next year.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Ok.

[Rasorow]

ok

[Rasorow]

Are we restarting Thursday? 9 pm EST?


Rasorow

[NarfsCompIsBack]

Don't know if I will be able to get there. Might be able to get openrpg installed on the downstairs computer.

[Randallw]

There are a number of reasons why I can't be certain yet. Theres Narf's problem and my sister is still visiting and I don't know exactly when she leaves.

[douglas]

I don't know if I can make it. I'm still at home for the holidays, and I'd have to ask permission of my parents to both install OpenRPG on their computer and use it nonstop for three hours. I think they'd let me, but I'm not sure. Oh yeah, I'd have to recreate my character sheet too, unless someone has a copy of it to give me.

[Randallw]

That's ok. It's pretty clear some of us aren't prepared to start again yet.

[Randallw]

Narf, any schedule on being able to join again?.

[Rasorow]

I can go Thursday 9-12 ..... I just need to know if we are meeting or not.

Rasorow

[NarfsCompIsBack]

Well, I just need to lifeboat some of the files from dos, reformat the drive and reinstall XP.

[Randallw]

I know we are anxious to get started again, however I am not going to verify a session until I can be certain that Narf can make it. We aren't many and no one new seemed interested in joining when I asked. There may come a time when we must choose to go ahead without Narf, but I am willing to allow another week.

[Rasorow]

Thats cool with me I just dont want this do go by the way side.... to much fun to let go down the drain.


Rasorow

[NarfsCompIsBack]

Oh, it won't take another week. If nothing goes wrong, I'll be there tommorrow. *I hope I hope I hope*

[Randallw]

Theres no need to hurry. I didn't think we'd get a session so I havn't prepared, or organised for one.

Edit: If indeed Narf will be ready by next week, Rasorow is raring to go, and I can prepare if we are on, can I take this oppurtunity to hear from Douglas and Fyron who havn't spoken up yet.