Ye Olde Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong's Head Cantina

[Gryphin]

GT, You do not have to install the TDM mod pack. you do have to create a new install of SE IV, add the patch and make sure you use that install for the game.
I do not have the TDM installed. I remember asking Mephisto about this a few weeks ago.

Mephisto? I am right on this?

I will delete my post if I am wrong.

[Chardo Mon]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:
Chardo Mon - off sorting out your chakra this weekend? is that the same as getting your bits and bobs sorted?<hr></blockquote>

Being an old Yankee, I'm not sure what sorted bits and bobs are. None the less, in the light of international understanding, my wife tells me that Chakra is my inner personal light and strength, brought forth by yoga and meditation, for the benifit of all.

It's a very nice thought, and I hope it's true. At the very least I'll have a relaxing weekend in the countryside with some stretchy women and be ready to clearly see my way to victory (or at least my next move) by Monday.

Did that help at all????

[mac5732]

My Good GT, if you withdraw from our game, just think of all the possible international reprecussions.. its endless... bragging rights will be by default..., no, no, no, You might even have to kiss a Moose or Gnu just to make up to us or become involved in a furry symbiote relationship....

In a more serious note, if, I ,one of the most illiterate computer magnets, can eventually work it out, (after numerous emails etc to Mephisto, Tesco, Gryphin and Saxon) you will to, it usually is just a small technical problem, believe me I know only all to well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

just some ideas mac

[tesco samoa]

Actually I think we do not need the tdm-mod pack.

Since this is the greatest downfall to our game we should get rid of it and play with out it... That way we can get started. On a side not Tigga talk to MAC and get him to expain to you how to set up your seiv directories to play with mods. ( That way you will learn some more Mac, and the next game we can use a mod...we will take it in small steps)

I recommend this solution to our problems with the mod.

1. Close down the old game
2. Create a new game only with 1.67 stock and no mods
3. Everyone join again and upload there races and empire files.
4. start the game.
5. Play game.

This or K[M] will go crazy..........

[Gryphin]

tesco, I'm with you.
I wonder should we even wait for the pending patch that is being discussed.

[capnq]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr> and as for the patch - bouncing mufflers to that - can't we just play the game in straight 1.6-unadulterated-7??!!! <hr></blockquote>v1.67 is the Patch 1 Version. Unpatched Gold is only v1.60.

Mods and patches are two different things.

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[Chardo Mon]

My goodness, I'm up for being a target. Please tell me the game title and I'll join the list of soon to be disposed hamlets.

[Rollo]

Happened to stumble across this:

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Puke:


i still stop by a couple times a week, but i have not been posting much. Rollo probably wants to kill me for not following up on the Space Monsters like i was supposed to... &lt;snip&gt;<hr></blockquote>

Hehe, don't worry. I am not mad at all. I have only been working slowly on this mod myself.
*Rollo leaves quickly before the denizens of the cantina notice him* http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ 03 May 2002: Message edited by: Rollo ]</p>

[Gryphin]

dogscoff
&lt; with a bow &gt;
Posted by dogscoff in the "Space Empires Haiku" thread:
"Insults are traded,
The currency of friendship,
In the Phong's Head Pub."

We are honored, though I fear you know us too well

[ 03 May 2002: Message edited by: Gryphin ]</p>

[mac5732]

GT, check your email, I sent you, hopefully, some easy steps to try and get your TDM-modpack to work. hope they work

Rollo, you don't have to leave the cantina, stick around, we don't bite, but some of us do have a tendancy to kiss Mooses or Gnus or ride donkeys while munching on carrots, you are always welcome the same as everyone else, join in always room for one more

Tesco; it took me long enough to learn how to do this one, lets at least try it before we give up, besides, i don't think GT needs tdm to play the game, but lets see if we can help him download it anyway, it was and is confusing but once done, everything comes together, take it from one who lost enough hair and exploded with language my kids never heard from me before while trying to figure it out, let alone all the emails i sent everyone asking and receiving help on this thing.
Now you want to change it,? uuuggghhhh, I can't go thru it again... pleeeeaaassseeee, my nerves, let alone my family couldn't go thru it again.....
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

just some ideas mac

[Saxon]

I have a rather shaky photo of some gnu kissing, but it seems that we can not post images on this board. If anyone could advise how I can post it, I would be gratful, as would the photographer who risked life, limb and sanity to take the photo.

As for firing up our game, I feel that the suggestion of starting again from scratch would be our best move. Perhaps we should even leave the 1.67 patch out, it is just one more step slowing things down. Mac, I hear your concern, but this is really for the best and it will be simple to do. Truely simple, not like the other things we made you do...

Right now we have a 2-1 vote on it, can the others chime in?

Tigga, you are going to have to learn how to unzip files, as that is how the PBW systems sends them to you. Can't you get involved in that law suit when a bunch of Kenyan nomads are suing the British government for leaving unexploded shells all over the desert? That way you can fly down here and I can show you all of this in 15 minutes. It will also give me a chance to confirm the Shreck rumours.

More seriously, I got a copy of Unzip from a Pc Gamer cover disk, does anyone have any suggestions where Tigga can get a copy?

[tesco samoa]

Mac....

All I was saying was that you could teach Tigga just so you could answer his questions. That way you learn some more and gain alittle more experience in the storage of files.

The only change you would have to make is to 'click' on the paths.txt file in the root directory of seiv gold and change the line
Using Mod Directory:=TDM-ModPack
to
Using Mod Directory:=None
then save the file.

Then teach tigga how to do all the stuff you just learned.

Then if tigga askes you a question you don't know you can either read up on it or ask here.

You knowledge increases and your skill set improves.

P.S. its a nice feeling when you think I know the answer to that question and I am going to help this person.


And another thing.

Toronto was tired and played one of the most boring games of hockey ever. They will bounce back.

The Col-SJ series is good.
Football
Looks like Arsenal has rapped up the league.

It will be nice to see city back up

not too much longer for the world cup.

Who do you think will win ???

I think Poland will go far.... but I do not know who will win.

[Gryphin]

Saxon,
You can email the photo to me. I can post it in a hidden folder at windingstream.com

[tesco samoa]

gryphin is that your website? like the computer holder

[tesco samoa]

http://www.hotsaucezone.com

They even have a forum....

[Gryphin]

tesco, thanks, that is my web site. i use it as part of my sales pitch to women. It gives them an idea of who I am. It also has a few pics of me i can't display here or GrowlTigga would have a coronary.

[Gryphin]

Saxon,
Thanks for the pic. It is now at windingsteam.com
Do you think it is safe to post the link? I don't want to give mac or GT a heart attack.
I want to beat GT first, then we can do the shock thing.
Seriously, ya think I can?

[Growltigga]

Hmmmm, SEIV dilemma

Hmmmm, by the cunning artifice of deleting my heavily 'tweaked' SEIVG from Villesse (my computer) and reinstalling, I was able to play turn 1 of the game and in fact have just uploaded turn 2

Question - my race uses an excellent 'Atrocities' Federation shipset but I seem to be logging nto the game as the Drushocka or the Eeee or the Piundon or the Sallega - why is this?

Dilemma - I have just realised why I like SEIV so much - it is not the gameplay, it is not the tech, it is not the graphic, it is not any of this - it is the fact that I can "create" the '"perfick" space empire a la Starfire a la Honor Harrington a la Startrek - I can have fllets of 1000 starships, each lovingly named, each planet lovingly named and crafted

I have now realised that PBW doesn't let you do this if you want to win - you dont advertise, you dont give anything away

So.... what the hell do I do? play to win? or play for fun?

[Captain Kwok]

GT &gt; I have the same problem with naming planets and ships, and designing ships that look great but are not effective for the rough and tumble nature of most PBW players. I guess that is why I don't play PBW very often unless it's a good role-play game.

[Phoenix-D]

"Question - my race uses an excellent 'Atrocities' Federation shipset but I seem to be logging nto the game as the Drushocka or the Eeee or the Piundon or the Sallega - why is this?"

Maybe you forgot to re-install your shipset when you deleted and re-installed SE4? If SE4 can't find a shipset it will pick a random once each time.

Phoenix-D

[Saxon]

Gryhin,

I think that you can post a link, but that it should be very clearly labeled as being dangerous, adult material that may be unsuitable for those who are easily offended. Perhaps an age limit should be set. My main fear is that if we put an appropriate age limit on it, only Mac will be able to review the photo. If we were to put a maturity test on the link, none of us would be able to check it. We will just have to trust to fate that people take the warning seriously.

[Growltigga]

Phoenix D - wise words there as that explanations fits exactly with what I have or haven't done - I need to get back to Atrocities' website and download the groovy Trek shipsets - many thanks for the steet

Saxon - I agree with all your comments (for afrightening change) - Gryphin - I would disseminate that link by private mail only rather than postingon the forum - the older members of this forum can make that informed decision about whether to go there or not, but we shouldn't potential scar the younger members of this forum
- and think of Mac's heart!!

Kwok - right in - I am having such a dilemma working out whether I just play the way I like and trsut to fate, or play to really win - my view is the former I think - I want the universe to know that the GFN Tiger is an lion class missile cruiser etc

who on earth cares if we win, the important thing was being there

[Gryphin]

Honorable GrowlTigga,
RE: Winning vs fun
Any who win but do not have fun doing so, have lost more than they can measure.

I feel a haicu coming on...

[Saxon]

Do we have to cover this again? Obviously, the Fluffy Bunnies are going to rule the galaxy, so I do not see your concern. You should play with as much style and panache as you can manage, as glory and honour are all you will be able to win. We will get all the carrots.

[Gryphin]

"To Have Phun" was the name I gave to all of the scenarios I ever created and games I ran. I would judge and award victory based on Attitude, Sportsmanship, and Demeanor. Some never caught on and generally were bad losers even if they achieved their strategic and tactical objectives. It pissed them off to see a good loser get the top prize. Those that did catch on were people who valued the handshake more than the prize.
Go Figure

Me, rock band, thanks for the chuckle. I have the musical skill of a giraffe. I have been intoxicated perhaps a total of 40 times in 20 years.
I will email the address from home tonight.

[tesco samoa]

K ? did you reset TheBratts password.

He cannot access his race,,,and the disappointment of an auto on turn one has upset him greatly ,,,, Could you reset his password and private message him with the new one.

[mac5732]

I don't know if my old ticker can take more change, iiieeeee.... I r eally don't care if we start over, its just a shame that we got it going and to change again, sigh, it means more computer nightmares...... you guys sure don't make this easy for us computer illiterates. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
so do I take the 2nd turn or not on current game????

Gryphin, I sent you email to send link for the Gnu Kissing Site.

GT, I have discussed this with my doctor and he felt as long as I prepared myself for the horrible, disgusting, unavailable for those under 40, live photos of this ambiant behavior, my ticker should be able to hold up, however, he strongly advised to pop several baby aspirin and to be sitting down before I envision this gastly, undescribable, event. So, I have been preparing myself to indulge in this most dangerous undertaking of viewing these live photos. I don't even want to think of how Saxon got the poor photographer to take these photos, let alone the psychological impact it had on him/her, or the nightmares he/she are more then likely going thru. We must also take into consideration the tramua to the poor Gnu itself, Can you just imagine what the poor thing went thru when out of nowhere a human walked up and gave it a lip-lock,
I hope they have Gnu mental doctors In Kenya. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

just some ideas mac

[Gryphin]

RE: Picture,
In the name of avoiding the violating the sensibilities of younger people, those who wish a link to the photo mentioned by Saxon please send me a private email. I will respond to all. Please send the request here or to:

gryphin@windingstream.com

[Growltigga]

Gryph - please send a copy of the picture of Saxon getting his oats, ahem... for purely educational purposes only

Satan, get thee behind me...

Saxon, point is well taken, I will change my wempire on the next game turn to reflect the style I love to play - if I go down, I will go down kicking feebly!

Gryph - wise words from you as well, is this some weird trend sweeping the states at the mo that you are all talking sense for a change? I will just have fun!! Gryph BTW, I was looking through my old gramophone records the other day, you remind me of the drummer in the band 'Boston' very heavily - given your locus of habitation, d you have a sex and drugs crazed rock n roll history you want to share with the rest of us

[capnq]

I have never played my Tiktsin in a multiplayer game, because they're way too pacifistic to compete.

My Rrurrr are quite militaristic, but they have a long history of losing to Askan. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

My Mi-Go have been more successful, but they survive more by diplomacy and intel than strength.

[mac5732]

Mepisto, game won't take my password..

just some ideas mac

[Growltigga]

Mac, go into your game and type F11 to change password

Gryphin, thanks for the photo =- I am shocked, who was that hideously ugly thing? (I mean the one without a trunk)

that wasn't gnu kissing, that was snogging an elephant which is just shocking

[Gryphin]

Cantina Patrrrons, (roll the "rrr" when you say that,
So far only 2 have requested the link. I would like to assure everyone I will not tell anyone who request the link.
Any more takers?

[mac5732]

Saxon my good man, Thanks for the photo, I must say I didn't know a Gnu had tusks or long nose, but your the man on the spot. After the shocking display shown on the photo, I had to take a half bottle of baby aspirin just to settle my ol ticker down, The disgusting sequence of events shown is hard to describe in words alone. Mrs M. left me a note this morning saying that I was rolling and shrieking in my sleep Last nite, wanted to know if I was having a nightmare. What can i say.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

PS. I see you, as well as the Gryphin, have a symbiote relationship with a wooly bear, as well as some type of Growth expanding on the lower half of your profile. Does it hurt? Is this something one gets when living in Keyna ???

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[Growltigga]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
I was rolling and shrieking in my sleep Last nite, wanted to know if I was having a nightmare.<hr></blockquote>

No, I suspect you were just dreaming about dancing with Britney Spears (or given your age, maybe Carmen Miranda http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Saxon and Gryphin, having seen the photographic evidence to boot, I am now worried that an unholy beardy weirdy alliance has sequestrated our game and that the clean shaven noble types also playing the Bash are subject to a sly takeover threat

Follicular minimalist chaps of the world - UNITE -gather together brothers to stave off this hairy usurpation attempt - stand shoulder to shoulder to fight for your right to be clean shaven against the hirsute hordes of closet morris and line dancers - to me brothers, one more unto the breach dear friends, once more - cry havoc and let slip the cats of war

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[Gryphin]

Galactic Bash Story Thread
Now that the game is officially under way how do players and voyeurs alike feel about a new thread where we can brag about our exploits? Keep in mind that anything written by players may be miss information, (not that I would ever do that).

[Growltigga]

Sounds a good idea to me - it is going to be a trcky one to coordinate - do you want to give it first dibs?

[Gryphin]

Honorable GrowlTigga,
I'll write up mine tonight. I don't think it needs to be cordinated, It might carry the "flavor" of the "History of the Galaxy" Thread where the date for each is posted.

Any one else any thoughts?

[Growltigga]

Well Grypho, it will be curious to see how these things pan out without giving too much away,

I can see it now.

"Chronicle of the Growltigga Alliance

Turn 2400.1

Growltigga the Great rose from his bed this morning and decided that this turn was a good time for building some cunningly designed spaceships and carrying out some eclectic research into things arcane. These complex decisions having been made, he then decided to chase some mice and then check out that new femlae cat down the block.

Turn 2400.2

Growltigga the Great turned away from his spaceyard foreman and retracted his footclaws. The foreman was doubled up in his own little private world of pain and Growltigga watched at the man's happy sacks now reached orbit. Growltigga thought that would teach the wretch not to cross the great cat - note to neural nanonics, dont play SEIV when under the influence, second note to neural nanonics - dont forget to drop videos off at Blockbusters on way home, third note to neural nanonics - check out that new cat next door, organise a party and invite those cool cats from research who have come up with some great things recently

[tesco samoa]

we could keep it here. Since this is the grab bag off stuff. And I want to see two rolls of numbers.

also is this current game still going or is a new one starting???

[Growltigga]

On the one hand, roll up, roll up, I do reccomend the link because (a) it is not rude and (b) you get to see Saxon's beard (Laugh? I laughed till the tears ran down my legs!!)

On the other hand, who is the galactic chronicler for the Galactic Bashfest? can Mephisto do this?he is the game coordinator and I assume gets to see all of what each of us are doing?

On the gripping hand, I suspect a chronicler may give a bit too much information about what each of us are up to

[ 07 May 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]</p>

[Gryphin]

tesco,
The current game is going. There is no restart.
The reason for a separate thread is that this is a grab bag. We would try to keep it focused on the game so it reads more like the other story threads, (but more humor and the like). Story lines would get lost in the Cantinna. They would be hard to follow.

[mac5732]

Just sent Mephisto my turn thru his mailbox, the PBW site is down, probably the update they talked about awhile back.

I like the idea of the story line, hmmm, his Supreme Highness Twixle the 4th shall endeavor to procreate some of his more interesting attributes in his life and that of the Tka-Chik race

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[Growltigga]

Tesco, we have all worked out how to use the PBW system now (albeit some of us are on straight 1.67 with sans TDM modpack) so no restart to the game - gird your loins and commence galactic expansion dear boy

Mac - please dont procreate anything, the thought of that has put me right off my stroke

I will try and upload my turn tonight

[Gryphin]

Galactic Bash Players, Cantinna Patrons, and Lurkers
"The Galactic Bash Story Thread"
Has been launched.
Let the reader beware.

[tesco samoa]

Ok. Then we continue.

I am done turn two now.

Just hit enter. Gotta love those turns.

[Growltigga]

Keep up Basil!! even I managed to get my turn in place a couple of days back!!

[tesco samoa]

Who is holding up a spice ?

[Saxon]

PBW is down and Mac mentioned sending his turn to Mephisto. Is that the plan for the next few turns? Sorry, between the maintenance on the board and my boss getting appendicitis, I have not been keeping up.

I am pleased that people have enjoyed my efforts to promote goodwill and understanding between species. My only disappointment was that Tigga did not comment on my shapely legs, which were so well displayed in my shorts. Of course, I was not surprised to hear him call for an alliance of testosterone lacking nations against those blessed with abundant facial hair, it is a refrain of jealously which has been sung many times before. He is not even aware of how much he wants to grow a mustache, but we can all clearly see the subconscious signs. After all, he has chosen a race of cats, which are well known for preening their whiskers.

[Growltigga]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Who is holding up a spice ?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">"Oh god, saveth my soul from philistines and other colonials!

Tesco, my comments was known as a pun or a play on words. 'Vassili' is the Greek equivalent name for "Basil" hence my remark, and hence the reference to your empire sounding like a bunch of kebab shop owners

Basil is a herb, not a spice. It is of the genus Ocimum Basilicum Vulgarum albeit the sort usually grown for culinary purposes depends on your locale, for example, Thai Basil (Ocimum Basilicum Horapha) is different from say the Sweet Basil (Ocimum Basilicum Menthii) you colonials grow

Please ensure your culinary terms are correct.

[ 10 May 2002, 08:24: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[Growltigga]

My only disappointment was that Tigga did not comment on my shapely legs, which were so well displayed in my shorts.

Saxon, if I had made a remark complimenting your legs, I would probably have also made a remark about how I want to come over to Kenya and give you a big sloppy wet kiss on the bottom

It just is not going to happen and I would ask you to not make passes in my direction

an alliance of testosterone lacking nations against those blessed with abundant facial hair,

Look you silly sod, lack of hair IS a sign of too much testosterone sloshing around in the system, well known fact that bald chaps are absolutely fizzing with the stuff - put a nail on the end and with this hip action I could make it through walls!!!

He is not even aware of how much he wants to grow a mustache, but we can all clearly see the subconscious signs

I want a stupid moustache about as much as you want to undergo colonic irrigation, as much as Mephisto wants to join a Scorpions tribute band, as much as Mac wants an affair with Peewee Herman and as much as Gryphin wants to become a ballerina

he has chosen a race of cats, which are well known for preening their whiskers

Well yes, my 'cats' will be preening their whiskers but only after they have ripped your fluffy bunnies' heads off and have stuffed them up their own rectums

[Saxon]

Tigga,

I think Gyrphin did want to be a ballerina, I am sure I saw it on his web page. Something about spending more time with beautiful women or something like that. I will keep your comments on nailing things through walls in mind for when I plan an addition to the house, I may have a job offer for you. As for passes at you, well, the job offer is the best you will get from me.

Does anyone know how long PBW is expected to be down?

[Growltigga]

Typical manifestation of sod's law me feels

The Gryphin/Growltigga thread and I guess the Cantina all evolved from macho posturing Last December between la personne poilue and myself.

It takes us 6 months to stop posturing and finally put words into action and the bloody server goes down!!

Saxon, did you go to Israel in Aug/Sep 1993? you look awfully like a Canadian beer-wendy I remember from the Arizona Bar in Jerusalem

[Growltigga]

Beer-Wendy means that you are a lightweight when it comes to drinking. It is naturally a phrase that is applied to 99.9% of North Americans who couldn't stand their ground in a decent boat race

Drinking is still something Brits do very well

1983? I was 12 years old

Worst job I had was working in a pork pie making factory - pork products so fresh the pig dont know they are gone - I gave up meat for 2 years after that job

Best job? driving a tractor on a farm, working as crew on a girl's only sailing holiday for posh bints, being a driver in Morrocco for a party of 17 year old schoolgirls

[Growltigga]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
I did not know Vassili is greek for basil
I named the empire after the famous Russian General from the 62nd Army.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yep, dont you remember Vassilis Kourtakis - famous for his retsina?

[Saxon]

Resina is pine resin, isn’t it? How did the basil get involved, I thought they were just ruining the wine so the SS wouldn’t drink it. I have to agree that North Americans are light weight drinkers, but after a few painful months, I was able to catch up. Amazing the things they teach in English universities.

1983. Yep, I was twelve as well, but I got sent on a cruise of the Mediterranean and ended up in Jerusalem on East Sunday. I remember doing fighters doing a fly by as we got off the boat and I remember a lot of soldiers on roofs. It was an interesting trip.

Best job, white water raft guide, the summer after being the cook. Girl in bikinis looking to have fun, lots of adrenaline and the best shape I have ever been in. This sounds oddly like you crewing boats with girls, there may be something we share in common. We had best stop comparisons, it may lead some degree of being polite to the other person, which would really detract from the entertainment value of this board.

As you may have guest from the sudden flurry of Posts, I am tied to my computer doing the Monthly Report. I do not like doing the Monthly Report.

[Growltigga]

Count yourself lucky Saxon, I dream of doing Monthly Reports, I am currently drafting an intercreditor deed that has a painful ratchet and a tricky standstill mechanism - I would rather defluff my navel with a kitchen blowtorch

Let's get this clear, 'Vassili' is the Greek name which corresponds to the English name 'Basil' and IIRC does not correlate to the plant of the genus Ocimum Basilicum in any stlye or form - if you want herbs in drinks, then try "Hoegaarden", a Dutch weissbier that has coriander in it

Actually, you yanks call coriander something stupid like cilantro or something dont you?

You are right, it must be something about women and men in boats - no wonder my hair fell out (again)

I was 22 when I went to Israel - at that age, the idea of being one of 8 male volunteers with 42 female volunteers is quite a nice one - oops, my hair fell out again

Retsina is wine which is stored in pine casks and therefore develops the resin-esque flavour - I guess now after a few thousand years, the Greek palette has adjusted to it. I like it and think there is nothing finer to drink on a warm Summers' evening (well, DAB lager is a close second).

North Americans are hopeless drinkers and it is always good fun for us Brits to find a group and challenge them to a drinking contest! it is such fun watching a bunch of preppies throw up all over themselves!

[ 10 May 2002, 13:49: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[tesco samoa]

http://www.thehammer.ca/story.php?section=pages/24&page=1.html

Link for Nortel Investors

I am offended by your sweeping generalizations about North American Beer. Perhaps you should try some. (We're not talking about that stuff that you drink like pop)

Preppies???? Ummmm you been listening to WHAM again.

[Growltigga]

But Tesco old boy, I have tried North American beer many times.

The only good stuff is the ale you get from the microbreweries (can I reccomend The Whistle Stop Brewery in Flagstaff - excellent ale)

It is just compared to what we have over here!....

Well, let me just say that when I first went to North America, I was told that it was a place where you could buy anything, except for the beer and the women which you merely rented for a while

[tesco samoa]

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/05/09/1020914032396.html

[Growltigga]

Saxon, something you posted in the 'PBW' thread that just came to mind

You said you were going out for a blind date tonight with the girl who took the photo of you snogging the elephant

This implies you have met her. How on earth do you go out on a blind date with someone you have met already (unless you are both wearing blindfolds)

Please answer, the public have a right to know

[tesco samoa]

&lt;http://www.legodeath.com/&gt;

Feeling Linky today.

[mac5732]

Bru-skis are ok, especially on a hot day, but give me some good Canadian Club with Ginger, aahhh, now that is really smooth http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Saxon, in regards to the photo in question, I must say, I always thought Gnu's had horns not a long greyish colored hose. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I commenced some short research into this area, and I'm unable to locate any Gnu with this descripition. I'm wondering, could this have been a ruse just to meet the young filly in order to obtain a date?? hmm,

My most exciting job was when I was on vacation

1983???? you youngsters, I was somewhere around my mid 30's with 3 small rug-rats,

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[capnq]

Does anyone know how long PBW is expected to be down? <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Geo hopes to have the server back Online by late Monday evening.

capnq
PBW admin

[Saxon]

Beer-wendy? I must admit that my year in the UK did not expose me to that term. What does it mean? My Last visit to Israel would have been in ’83. August 1993 saw me working as a cook at a white water rafting resort in British Columbia. Quite a nice job, we were out in the bush, working hard three days a week and playing on the river the other four days.

The worst job I ever had was cleaning Greyhound buses and the bus terminal. Straight out of high school and mopping toilets, it was not fun. The guy who had the night shirt was ‘simple’ and jealous that I used his mop during the day. He took to hiding it different places and I had to start each shift trying to find the mop. After a couple of days I got tired of it and hid the mop myself. He had to ask the manager to help him find it, so the next morning I got an earful, but the mop hiding stopped.

[tesco samoa]

I did not know Vassili is greek for basil
I named the empire after the famous Russian General from the 62nd Army.

[tesco samoa]

Oh yea don't send turns to K-M

Just wait until the PBW is back up and running

[Saxon]

Mac,

If you are willing to break away from pure scientific research, you will find a pop song called “Looking for Love in All the Wrong Places”. It appears that I have not been kissing gnus, but have ended up in the wrong places and kissing elephants. I will endeavor to find the right places and provide more, detailed photographic evidence of true gnu kissing. However, as you will read below, my photographer Mary is being retired due to a minor issue of misrepresentation.

Tigga,

My blind date with Mary. Well, you are right it was not really a blind date. However, she did conceal some critical information until a critical moment, which I feel justifies the term blind. After all, usually you understand that the person you are dating is free of all encumbrances and is in a position to date you. Discovering that there is another man, just as you are finishing a nice nightcap and are thinking of other things, is not a nice thing. Being the gentleman that I am (contrary to various slanders posted on this very board), I offered to drive her home and ended up finding out where the other man lived.

Tonight, with Annie, I fully intend to do a detailed cross examination early in the evening to ensure that no legal, societal or emotional bars stand in the way of asking her for a nightcap. I will also ask after her photographic skills, to ensure that Mac has a steady flow of quality data.

As an aside, I am sure that Mac would have approved of Mary, despite the deception. She wanted Teacher’s as her nightcap.

[tesco samoa]

I actually missed posting and reading here when the site was down.

Oh no.

[mac5732]

My Dear Saxon,

It is always a pleasure to see that others enjoy the worldly aspects of looking into scientific aspects within ones life. I'm sure Mary had some good qualities except for her interpertation of what a real GNU stands out. I would like to know how you already had a standby waiting in the wings upon the departure of Miss Mary. hmmm, you are starting to sound as bad as the Gryphin with all these fillies running around your anatamy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I think you and Gryphin need to settle down and become calm, cool, and domesticated similiar to Growltigga and myself in order to enjoy the wonders of inner piece, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Tesco, I agree, the withdrawl I experienced from not being able to read or post on this forum was quite disturbing to say the least. I actually had to converse with members of my family for a change. The only drawback was they had no idea what I was talking about in relation to my discussions on SE4 and the Galactic Bash nor were they interested in furthering their scientific knowledge. It made for a quite boring commitment. In fact Mrs M. couldn't wait for the forum to come back just to relieve them of my lively discussions which interrupted her night time soaps. My boys just kept looking at me, except for my oldest, he plays SE4 so at least I did have some type of companionship. sigh,

I hope Richard is done moving things around now, at least everything is here in Ohio, so if it goes down, I will recommend that everyone just go over to his house and inbib upon his hospilatility until we are up and running again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[ May 14, 2002, 09:44 AM: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

[Saxon]

Mac,

One must always have contingency plans and Gryphin and I understand this well. As it transpired, my contingency plan was better than my original one, as Annie has no restrictions on her ability and, more important, willingness to go on a second date.

As for settling down and enjoying the benefits of inner peace, I will take the matter under consideration. While Mrs. Mac does seem a nice enough soul, Mrs. GT ended up buried under the garage, making me question the level of inner peace Tigga was achieving. Let Gryphin and I continue our experiments, if only in the name of science.

[Growltigga]

Hmmm.... as previously mentioned, Mrs GT is alive and well and has absolutely no problem in rising from the grave - she is still working hard and doing her damnedest to bust our credit limits!

Saxon, good to know you are playing the field and checking out all available talent in Nairobi - with those legs you should persevere

[Saxon]

Tigga,

If Mrs. GT is busting the credit limit, why don’t you have a go as well and get an ASDL line into your house and have nice fast internet connections? That way you can send rude Posts to us during the evening and spend more time getting big accounts during the day. Think what it would do for your productivity, you might even be able to convince your boss to pay for it…

Has anyone here used null space weapons much? I am trying to figure out the best strategy for my fleets. I was thinking 50% damage, as that should cripple most ships and then move my firepower on to more dangerous targets. Optimum range will create some distance between me and the enemy, who outguns me, hopefully limiting damage from them, but not hurting me too much, like long range might. I am in a tight squeeze in a PBEM game and if I do not get this right, I am finished. In fact, I would be happy just to cripple this particular fleet and protect my planets, I do not think I can stop it dead.

[Growltigga]

Saxon, it makes Mrs GT very happy when she has the credit card to play with - it is almost worth the high bills for the sheer peace and quiet I get out of things - if I didn't let her releave her stress this way, she would probably be out with her mother savaging sheep... it is a public service really

What game are you talking about? I assume this is not the Galactic Besh? even Colonel Sanders (ie Gryphin) himself couldn't amass a fleet to give you a whipping that quick!

I like null space weaponry, I also like high energy discharge weaponry, I also likes small fluffy kittens!

Hey, I have been demoted to first lefftenant (phonetic spelling BTW) - is this something you wretched yanks are doing to get back at us english and other foreigners?

[ May 15, 2002, 08:47 AM: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[mac5732]

Saxon, you youngsters sowing your oats does bring back memories of my younger days,... sigh, aahh those were the days.

Even tho Mrs GT has risen from the garage floor and is currently on a shopping spree with pLastic (thats what he gets for trying to put her under the garage in the lst place) GT still does appear domesticated, except for lapses when it comes to outside cafe's and bouncing sights jiggling by. The only ones I'm not sure of are Tesco and Mephisto in regards to being domesticated, down to earth, stay at home, no partying, no sight seeing or oogling on their off time. hmmmmm, they always say its the quiet ones you have to watch out for. hmmmmm http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

GT, in regards to everyones demotions, Richard, stated in another thread, that he was tinkering with the system to have some fun with everyone, apparently he must have hit the enter button instead of delete.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fluffy Kittens huh, hmmmmm, sounds like you've been to Vegas.....

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[mac5732]

Saxon, in regards to Null Weapons. I use them usually later in the game. I like to use them for up close combat. I usually put them on Large Sats and used for wormhole defense. (Mix them with other types not soley null weapons). I also like to have 1 ship type loaded with Null Weapons and usually with at least 1 type of everyturn firing weapon. I use these for close up fighting and they are good on wormhole defense. I always design at lease 1 battle station or starbase with Null weapons. These again I use for wormhole defense. Null weapons, in my opinion, are good close up weapons therefore I like to use them for wormhole defenses and close up combat. In addition, I like to use weapon killing weapons. They only fire every 4 turns, but mixed in with other ships/weapons, they definitly put the hurts on enemy shipping. No weapons, no shooting.

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[Growltigga]

Originally posted by mac5732:
GT still does appear domesticated, except for lapses when it comes to outside cafe's and bouncing sights jiggling by.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Me? tamed and domesticated? never, us Tigga's are vicious and nasty, wild and untamed and elemental as they come

I will have you know that I am a free man/cat in all respects (provided Mrs GT says so, after all, she is the one with the inheritance)

But... when it comes to observing young feminine sights of interest, even Mrs GT can't stop my inertial tottyscope from functioning - I am pinpoint a sight of interest from 200 yards wuth these peepers

[mac5732]

GT, LOL

just some ideas mac

[tesco samoa]

new turn...and i am getting the wrong data files error again.

anyone else.

[mac5732]

Yep, I'm with Tesco, I'm getting the same thing as he is, the first 2 turns I had no problem now I'm getting that data error, says data is not the same as when the game was created... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

just some ideas mac

[Growltigga]

Strange, I am not getting any data error (unlike the first time I tried to load turn 1) - I am on straight unadulterated 1.67 with no TDM modpack - I wonder if that helps

[Gryphin]

GrowlTigga, young cub,
Yes, you could say more CTW than I ever dreamed of. It has kept me away. I've also had a sky full of bandits on my tail at work. I keep looking ror my wingman but he is busy using Point Defence Cannons on the ones that get too close. People expect computers to be: Easy, Smart, Infalable, and Perfect.
Computer ar: Complicated, Literal, Stupid, and, "They do what you tell them to, not what you want"

[Growltigga]

Well, dont indulge in too much CTW as it can make your hair fall out (look at me, I am a case in point!!) and I am sure you dont want to lose your furry fellah and locks do you!!

the "bandits on your tail" I can understand fully - unfortunately, the quality of wingmen one has these days is not that spiffing so I would advise you upgrade from point defence cannon to sidewinders

Good to have you back - keep posting - I cannot lose my chief protagonist at this late date

[Gryphin]

GT "indulge in too much CTW as it can make your hair fall out (look at me, I am a case in point!!) " Um, did mac give you the secret with out the warnings? I disavow all responsibility for your follicle failings. It happens I have a genetic immunity to the baldness thing. Mac really should have warned you.

Mac what have to say for yourself????

[mac5732]

Gryphin, in regards to "They do what you tell them to, not what you want them to," I must introduce you to my 733 Mechanical Beastie. It has given me more fits then there are whiskers on a tigga. I swear it has a life of its own and justs like to antaganize me whenever I must use some of the internal whatevers in order to proceed with my ambitious playing trends. Talk about losing hair...... I'm trying to quit smoking and that d... metal pile of fur balls causes most frequent relapses, sigh, maybe someday they'll invent one that all you have to do is tell it what to do and it'll do it, ughhh

I have not formented any secrets of CTW or the TGP, mainly because I don't have any.. I'm still researching this aspect of this most intriging piece of science. I have been experimenting with various theories but I'm afraid more extensive work must be done to accomplish the actual designs and rudimentary facets of this artistic form. Therefore, if the Tigga has lost his fur I would feature to say that it is due to his own attempts at resolving the CTW and TGP issue. That and possibly seeing the bills that Mrs GT has formulated due to her recent demise under the garage floor. One must wonder what one has done which created the incredible....

In regards to our game, Mephisto reports problem occured during the move, he is working on it...

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[ May 16, 2002, 13:47: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

[Growltigga]

Well, I must confess to be generalising about the whole sticky circumstances of CTW - as I am only a cub, I dont actually specifically know what CTW is and would be grateful if someone could give me the specifics

[Gryphin]

GrowlTigga,
"biting legs off everywhere", Wonder if you have bitten off more than you can chew, "to coin a phrase"

[Growltigga]

Hey, Gryphin, I wondered where you had got to. Have you been off circling the wagons and perfecting la posición traviesa?

I might indeed have bitten off more than I can chew and you are dead right in coining that phrase my boy - good to hear from you, keep posting regularily old boy

[tesco samoa]

K-M is having problems as well. The Admin's at PBW have been notified.

I like the click here to review this topic.

Another Circle The Wagons.

A

[Growltigga]

Yeh, I tried to load the next turn Last night and got the data error message......

but then who cares, I also got invited to one of those sorts of parties Last night.... 20 young ladies in their underwear doing the conga is a vision which I am pleased to say will haunt me for a long long time...

Mrs GT was not very happy though when I turned up back at home at midnight singing the 'I'm climbing up Sunshine Mountain' song - I dont feel bad however as she went to one of those Chippendale evenings

[dogscoff]

Mac, your avatar pic: Is that Sir Hubert Guest? (Dan Dare's boss)

Surprised to see that he would be recognised in the States.

Dan Dare was great scifi. My Dad has a bunch of old Dan Dare reprints from the 50s. Back in the days when spaceships had fins and valves and big colourful levers=-)

Mekon: "When we reach Earth, we will show no mercy."
Treen: "What is 'mercy', O Mekon?"

Has anyone ever considered/ attempted a Dan Dare or Treen shipset? Treen shipset would be sooooo cool=-) Hmmm... my Dad's old Eagle reprints... My Dad's scanner... Treen shipset... idea forming...

[mac5732]

Dogscoff, ref to the avatar, what can be said without my age showing again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

GT, in reference to your aahh, apparent research into fillies under garments, I don't suppose that in the furtherance of science you obtained some working videos of the situation ..? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif If so I'm sure that the Catinia members wouldn't mind looking into the artistic values of said photos, in the cause of science of course.

I'm sure that Mrs GT was probably more upset due to the off key nature of your rendition then the late hour, It wouldn't be a bad idea to let her know that you have looked into increasing your vocal apparatus by taking some lessons to upgrade your tone/s..... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Dogscoff, the 50's and some early 60's old sci-fi mags had some nice looking ship-sets as well as racial characteristics, if you could find them or look maybe in old library archives they might help you with some ideas....(d... my age is showing again,) also look at some of the Calvin & Hobbes cartoon books, they have some ship sets and racial photos as well

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[ May 17, 2002, 14:17: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

[mac5732]

GT, ROFL (hysterically), I just read your updated column in the Story Thread.....LOL
(tears streaming down)...

just some ideas mac

[Gryphin]

I just checked,
Line Dancers are "Off Season", No Huntting

There is a bounty on tiggas though. I can't menion who posted it.

dogscuff and mac, my favorite mag "Analog" mag cover is a space pirate climbing up the outsdie of a "Rocket Ship" with a slide rule in his mouth insead of a cutlass.

[Gryphin]

GrowlTigga,
In refferance to your post in "I Got the Monster Blues"
"a monster bit off her head officer", um, Is that what you told the athorities when they investigated the dissapearnce of you Mrs. GT?

[Growltigga]

Originally posted by The High Gryphin:
I just checked,
Line Dancers are "Off Season", No Huntting
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Gryphin, first, I like the new handle - makes you sound more like the avian race you are playing in the game - right bunch of turkeys!!

Secondly, it is never off season for line dancers in the worlds controlled by the Growltigga Alliance - shredding line dancers is considered ever tigga's civic duty - country and western is Banned from all Alliance planets and anyone who has facial hair like Box Car Willy is liable to be lightly disembowelled

As for hunting tiggas, all I can do is quote the bard

Tiggas dont go out on rainy nights
They've no need to wet their appetites
They bite, They scratch
They make an awful fuss
There is no use stroking them
and saying
"Puss Puss Puss"
Aaaaarrrgggghhhhhh

[Growltigga]

Originally posted by The High Gryphin:
GrowlTigga,
In refferance to your post in "I Got the Monster Blues"
"a monster bit off her head officer", um, Is that what you told the athorities when they investigated the dissapearnce of you Mrs. GT?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nahh, I said "Here is a brown envelope full of crinkly chinkly stuff, how about you and it going away constable and having a good time and forgetting this pile of cement"

[Growltigga]

GT, in reference to your aahh, apparent research into fillies under garments, I don't suppose that in the furtherance of science you obtained some working videos of the situation

No, no videos I am afraid but my mate Mike took his digital camera and he did take some photos. What I need to do is work out how to post them somewhere where the Cantinas regulars can have a shoofty - damn fine party - the nice thin about getting to 32 years old I think is that you go to these parties wherew more people have disposable income, are a little wilder than when they were young and drink like fishes - huzzah!!

I'm sure that Mrs GT was probably more upset due to the off key nature of your rendition then the late hour

Actually no. I can sing, I even took singing lessons for several years and sang in my band in my younger years, albeit, the band was Bon Jovi style rock and was called 'Mick Muff and the Divers'

Mrs GT was annoyed at me standing outside Chateau Tigga yodelling 'I'm climbing up sunshine mountain where all the little birdies go tweat tweat tweat"

PS mac, just to make you jealous and this is straight up - Mrs Gt are going to one of her friends houses for dinner tonight, these people are great, the Last time we went there we all got very drunk and ended up playing strip twister (and I was on the game with 3 girls)

Hi ho hi ho its off to work I go!!

[ May 17, 2002, 17:25: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[Gryphin]

GT: about a place to post them:
I can do them up at windingstream.com and those that want them can request it.

[Gryphin]

RE: The Galactic Bash turn 3
The "turn file" I recived would not take my password. I assume this is because it was corruppetd?
should I try again
I just got a notice that the turn was due.

[EDIT] This is post 600

[ May 17, 2002, 19:06: Message edited by: The High Gryphin ]

[mac5732]

My good GT, yes I am most jealous of your apparent chance of untold research with such compelling partners in a radically explicit game of twister. If by chance you are afforded another opportunity to imbib yourself in this form of artistic expression, it would be most fortunate if you would at least think of this poor old soul during the most explosive parts to the tune of at least explaining to the young things in question, that I'm thinking of them and wishing that I to could enjoy their creative activity. It would also be nice, to at least obtain some scientific evidence for these old worn out eyes to embrace and dream of bygone days..sigh http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Gryphin, I too like your new handle it has pizzzaaasss. In regards to line dancing, I thought that was outlawed throughout the universe because of its most barbaric ritual overtones, let alone its consequences on our young people of today.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

ps. is our pbw game up and running yet, does anyone know, I received notice to upload before 17th, just want to make sure its still down before i try again....

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[ May 17, 2002, 19:14: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

[Puke]

'ello all. thought that id pop my head in here for a moment to interject some of my wiseassery regarding The High Gryphin's new handle. When not imbibing intoxicating substances, do you simply revert back to 'Gryphin?'

edit: excelent, the forum upgrades allow my user-rating to show up! im a little confused as to why its so high though.

[ May 17, 2002, 21:19: Message edited by: Puke ]

[Chardo Mon]

Ahhh... Good to be back from my Chakra search. Wheeew. It was so intense I had to learn how to do Proportions and the TDM mod pack installations before I felt normal again.

Anyway, is there still a game your all doing that you could use a newbee joining. I am a good looser and even better winner.

[Gryphin]

Puke,
I hate to disspoint but I have less than a glass of wine a week.
I do admit it may refere to the quality of my present life.

[Puke]

forgive me if i lashout from jealousy, the quality of my life is such that i rely on drunken debauchery for good times http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[Gryphin]

GT, Gryphin would have you know, you are too young and a kat to know about the The Gryphin Position or Circle the Wagons.
Besides, beings that slaughter line dancers should never be allowed the pleasures of TGP or CTW.

[mac5732]

Hi Puke, good to see your still around, sober or not http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif wondered what happened to you, thought maybe you tried some more home made sauce http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I agree, nothing like a good bruski now and then, even tho I prefer Canadian Club,
good to see you back

ChardoMOn, we have started a game, however due to mechanical failure during the server move, the data files apparently became possessed. (I still think the mechanical junk piles have their own essance and do this to us on purpose), In regards to joining, you will have to contact Mephisto since he's the host.. I have no problem since we only just started but he has the final say...

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[mac5732]

hmmmm, you notice Saxon hasn't been around since he told us he was going on that date with his new fillie, hmmmmm

Saxon oh Saxon
Where are you Ole Saxon
You of the Kissing of the Gnu
Please don't become blue
We shore do miss you

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[Mephisto]

Grrr, Mac, I think you are right about the machines. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif PBW not only reset the data files but also altered the master password. A real mess.
Since we do have 2 new players and your fine game is going down the hill at the moment I would like to suggest to restart the game with vanilla 1.67. What do you think? I need votes from everybody on this.

[tesco samoa]

yes on the vote

[mac5732]

Its ok with me, we weren't that far into it to make a difference, so starting a new fresh game should be no problem....(unless the mechanical essance once again connives to interfer once more)

just some ideas mac

[tesco samoa]

And K-M make the game auto roll on 48 or 72 hours and join the game.

That way you will have the time to play the game when the turns get to be an hour long.

[Gryphin]

Restart works for me. Remember to talk nicely to the computers. They have feelliings also. You might consider sending them a care package of "chips" wrapped up in a nice "Ribbon" cable. That should give their drives a nice hard boot.

[Saxon]

Saxon has been ill, something probably related to scientific research. And it was not research with fillies; he has branched out into the human species and will leave the gnus alone for at least a week. Saxon still has a sore throat, sneezes and a foul temper. Saxon does not mind starting the game again, though he is likely to rename his ships Hankie, Kleenex and Antihistamine.

[Growltigga]

Restart is acceptable to me, if a little annoying because I was cunning poised to employ the Godzilla tactic to good effect. Straight vanilla 1.67 with no bells or whistles is wonderschon with me.

Saxon, sorry to hear you are ill, if it is any consolation, I also have the sniffles and are becoming good friends with Dr Beechams

Mac, stop being a dirty old perv, one might be invited to the sort of paeties where cloths get removed but taking a video of the whole sheboogle is not acceptable

Puke, welcome back - good to hear your wise words and dulcet tones again

Gryph - I dont know how you survive, if I didn't need a lorry to take my weekend empties down the recycling centre every Sunday, I would have thought I had a serious problem

[Growltigga]

I miss wine, brandy, and beer big time .

Dont know how you survive without them. I need my Friday night attitude adjustment just as much as I need the air that I breathe (sounds like a song)

(unless she trys to pry me away from Space Empires

LOL, ROFL - too right my man, too right - my problem is explaining to Mrs GT why Kylie Minogue is an appropriate addiction

Can I suggest a new start date of: May 1

"Errr, ground control to Gryphin, come in Gryphin - Houston, we have a problem" - being facetious aside, I do not know if we can start the game on May 1 given that it is already May 20 - do you mean June 1? awww... we need to start before that, I was just getting ready to give Tesco Samoa the kicking he so rightly deserves!

"The Phong's Head Cantina May Dey"

Possible, very possible but I think we leave the game name to Mephisto and trust to his sense of humour to come up with an appropriate title for the game - at least you are not suggesting something involving kicking the stuffing out of tiggas!!

[Growltigga]

bugger

[ May 20, 2002, 13:11: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[Gryphin]

GT: "suggesting something involving kicking the stuffing out of tiggas!!" Drats, how did you know?
I am so sorry you will not have a chance to go bleetting up on poor defenceless tesco.

Um, Gryphin to Earth, The Tigga Alliance, and patrons of the ' Phongs Head Cantinna, We have recalibrated our internal cronometers and are now in sync with the rest of the quadrant.

Star date: May 22, 2002?

[Growltigga]

Drats, how did you know?

Oh, easy really, just been having these weird premonitions where I realised that the whole galaxy would probably be ganging up on me to administer a long awaited and much humiliating thrashing... on the other hand, I have also had premonitions of doing an MTV video with Jennifer Lopez and both of these cant be true

poor defenceless tesco

My backside that Tesco is defenceless - you know what these damn Canadians are like - they swan about making you think they are lovable members of the Sierra Club and then next moment, they are laughing their heads off whilst a bear is ripping your leg off, a moose is trying to give you mouth to mouth rescucitation (sic!) and a raccoon is playing marbles with your happy sacks

Next thing you know they are playing Alanis Morrisette at you at top volume!!

in sync

I didn't know you liked boybands. Are you a bit of a Backstreet Boys fan as well - I can just see you going through the moves!! &lt;wry grin - think of the image&gt;

May 22, 2002

This is a joke right?

[Gryphin]

"in sync", have to admit I can only infer who they are or what you meen. I have never heard of the phrase 'boy band' or the band.
I will admit one of my recent visions other than teaching you good manners and to respect for your elders it to spend some qualty time with Samatha Fox.

No, I think 5/22/2002 is an good star date.

[ May 20, 2002, 13:44: Message edited by: The High Gryphin ]

[Growltigga]

Hmm.. I must admit that I dont know who N Sync (I think they correctly call themselves) look like or sound like. The only thing I do know about them is that one of their members (if you pardon the pun) is the boyfriend of Britney Spears (or Broccoli Spears as we call her this side of the pond)

Gryphin - I am shocked that you are feeling so old and geriatric that you feel you need to show me some manners - please feel free to do so as I am always up for a laugh http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Sam Fox? hmmm, a little bit passe maybe, did you know that she a born again Christian nowadays? I always had you down more as a Sheryl Crow/Anastazia or Milla Jojovich type myself

[Gryphin]

"did you know that she a born again Christian nowadays?"
WOW!
My sweetheart has 3 of her CDs and the hots for her. This is going to be a rude awakening.

It is not a matter of feelling a need to teach you some manners. It is a desire. One I will realize.

[Growltigga]

Yep, that is the complete truth and I personally think that Sam Fox looks the better for it - she now have a nice curvy mature figure rather than the feeling as before that she had enough puppy fat for a litter of rottweilers

A desire to teach me some manners......hmmm..... me thinks this is how the entire international challenge started...... I said it before and I will say it again, "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough'

PS this grudge match is getting out of hand - I suggest a PBW game with you, me , Saxon and Mac, no bells and whistles, 3 planets and a small galaxy -Last one standing gets to be called "Ace", "Skipper" or "Tigerballs" by the other 3 to reflect his strategic and tactical genius

PPS I knew you liked Enigma but I have this strange vision now of you gyrating around your living room singing "touch me touch me I want to feel your body" - scary or what

[ May 20, 2002, 13:58: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[Growltigga]

bugger twice, despite this being my thread and my post, it wont let me delete these damn duplicate Posts that are happening

[ May 20, 2002, 13:56: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[mac5732]

When we start our new game are we going to have to redesign our Races all over again and send them in or can we still use the ones we already have??

GT,, Take the video premonition she's worth it

Saxon, sorry to hear your under the weather, you better start watching that night life over there, expecially since they don't have electricity. makes you wonder what they do all night.....apparently you need some rest, maybe a vacation to Canada or England...On 2nd thought, from what GT has stated the nite life is even more strenuous then Kenya, go to Canada, there you just have the mooses to worry about just ask Tesco.

Gryphin, glad to hear your ships clocks have been reset to Galactic Standard,

be careful, be very very careful
look to the the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[mac5732]

If anyone knows??

I thought that somewhere back in the forum, discussion went one that in the new Version that the defender would be random as to who moves, shoots first especially at wormholes. I looked but couldn't find it, BUT does anyone one know if that was incorporated into the patches? Reason I ask, in my current game, I'm always the one who moves/shoots lst when going thru wormhole or defending one.

just some ideas mac

[Growltigga]

GT,, Take the video premonition she's worth it

Oh yes, I wouldn't disagree with you at all there and I am already practicising my dancing ... step left step left spin high kick hands on hips and jette.....

maybe a vacation to Canada or England

Sorry but the Home Office has just declared Saxon an undesirable and therefore not welcome in England - he will have to sneak through the Channel Tunnel with everybody else if he wants to come here.. oohh that was a bit radical and controversial!!

Gryphin, glad to hear your ships clocks have been reset to Galactic Standard,

What? you means 2 days ahead of everybody else? Ahh that is why the Besh game has gone down the spanners, Gryph is too far ahead of us lesser mortals

[mac5732]

side step left, side step, hmmmmm sounds similiar to "LINE DANCING" hmmmmmmm http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

I thought the tunnel was closed because of an explosion or something??? Maybe Saxon can sneak in on a fishing boat???

just be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[Growltigga]

Me dancing with JLo will in no way be like line dancing I can assure you - it will be pure dynamite and extremely suggestive I can tell you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I think you are thinking of Israel as there has not been any explosion in the Channel Tunnel at all so far as I am aware - there was that fire about 3 years ago

PS anyone else accusing me of line dancing will be disembowelled

[Gryphin]

&lt; Circling just out of reach of a bouncing tigga, In best taunting voice, GrowlTigga is a Line Dancer, GrowlTigga is a Line Dancer, GrowlTigga is a Line Dancer, Na, Na, Na, Na &gt;

[Growltigga]

Guffin, thank you for that. It has made the fun of destroying you personal rather than pleasure.

Beforehand it was fun, now it is a matter of honour.

I am not taking that from a short sighted follicly disadvantaged line dancing north american

[Gryphin]

Tigless,
"I am not taking that from a short sighted follicly disadvantaged line dancing north american"
My torps say otherwise. Here Kitty, kitty Come and get it.

[Growltigga]

Message from Growltigga the Great

Dear High Gryphin,
Oh I am coming I am coming dont you worry about that - your torps will bounce off my shield of steel, I will knock you off your feet with my bolas of iridium and shall take great delight in using my zippo to set fire to your moustache and nasal hair - laugh? I will still be laughing when I cut your head off and stick it where the sun don't shine

Finger lickin' good

[mac5732]

GT, it must have been the fire I remembered, I know they have problems with people trying to get thru the tunnel from those holding areas which has caused them a heap of trouble.

I wouldn't mind dancing with her or Liz H. either one would probably set my ticker off just being with them...... sigh one can only hope and dream.

Well Saxon could still try a sneak in on a fishing boat, this way he wouldn't have to take those meds because the aroma of the salty air and the fish would most definitly open his sinuses which would enable him to enjoy a fast recovery. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Either that or he should contact Tesco or Puke for their recipes on Sauces, those without a doubt would take care of his ailments.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Does a Moose Line Dance ????

just some ideas Mac

[Gryphin]

GT:

“Tigga Tracking Tormenting Torps” don’t bounce. You can’t get a zippo to light in the vacume you and your crews will be sucking.

[Gryphin]

GT:
Um, you are using “steel” for shields? How primitive. It is amazing your ships can stand up to even Point Defense Cannons.

[Growltigga]

Gryphin, who is talking about ships?? only big girls, pansies and chaps with daft moustaches use ships - I am talking mano et mano - face to face -waiting until you are strolling the alleyways of Boston before bashing you on the cranium - I am over your said of the pond next week, I will have to reenact Alan Rickman's role from Die Hard

[Gryphin]

“Mano a Mano” implys face to face, no sneaking up. If you do face to face you will lose because I am faster. Did you ever try to sneak up on a blind man? Tsk, Tsk. You are in for a rude awakening.

[Growltigga]

AAhhh, but you are not faster are you old man? that is one of the nice things about being so much younger than you, I know that my faculties are still intact and operating at full efficiency, I am sure that at your advanced age, things are starting to slow down and not be quite as responsive as they used to be - do you ever find yourself waking up in the morning thinking, "Gosh, I am sure that worked so much better a few years ago" - Age, it is the great leveller

If you want the same effect, why dont you take a swipe at old Degsy....

PS are we doing this all or nothing game with the 4 of us? especially as Mephisto seems to have disappeared of the face of the sauerkraut

PPS Hey, just saw your profile and realised that you are 16 years and 4 days older than me - isn't it scary to think you had kissed your first girl probably before I was a twinkle in my dad's eye http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ May 20, 2002, 18:03: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[Gryphin]

GrolwTigga, "AAhhh, but you are not faster are you old man? ", I note the questionmark. Rest assured, I will always be faster in terms of dexterity, though I'm sure you have a faster wit.
All bravado aside: Are you going to make it to Boaton, Logan Airport? I'll try to meet you.

As to when I kissed my first girl? You will never know.

[Gryphin]

GT? My survival is based on loosing my marriage and spending 3 years in emotional He**. I miss wine, brandy, and beer big time. I used to have 2 beers a night. That and other behavior destroyed my health and marriage.
I have my health back and a love I will never risk loosing again, (unless she trys to pry me away from Space Empires). We all need one adiction.
On a serious note:
Can I suggest a new start date of:
May 1? It is an easy to remember date and has the double entre of "May Day, MAy Day, May Day". Seems apropriate.
The game could be called, "The Phong's Head Cantina May Dey"

[tesco samoa]

If any of you come to the Toronto area. Your welcome to stop by for a BBQ and some beers.

My wife will think its weird. Who is coming over. Oh just some people I talk to on the computer.

Tiggia. Don't you know the Canadians always bail the English out. I think the past 103 years speak for them selves.

Mac that damn sauce came back. Not enough postage. So I will attempt to send again tomorrow with the extra 3 cents that I was short.

Puke did you like that Selby Tigers ?

Saxon. I hope your feeling better.

The other day 3 pints of guiness and a bottle of wine had there way with me ( it is May24) .

Must remember to add some Makers Mark to that mix. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[mac5732]

In regards to our game, I believe Mephisto is just waiting for everyone to vote on re-starting and then he will attempt an exorsisim on the possessed essance of the server....

Tesco, no problemo, will the sauce still be good after all this time? If you want send it cod.
Also I'll take you up on the BBQ and Brewskis next time I'm in Toronto. Same goes for me, anyone, if your ever in the Cleveland area, let me know and stop in for a few or whatever.. I live in suburb outside of Cleveland and your all welcome. (maybe we can still have that SE4 get together that we discussed awhile back in another thread, I believe Richard or Geo said that we could all crash at their places the next time the server went down or we all got together http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

GT, With age comes, wisdom, knowledge, calmness, relaxation, peaceful bliss, comprehension of the meaning of life and the universe, and knowing that no matter what you youngsters are doing or thinking of doing, I"VE ALREADY DONE IT http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[Growltigga]

Originally posted by The High Gryphin:
GrolwTigga, "AAhhh, but you are not faster are you old man? ", I note the questionmark. Rest assured, I will always be faster in terms of dexterity, though I'm sure you have a faster wit.
All bravado aside: Are you going to make it to Boaton, Logan Airport? I'll try to meet you.

As to when I kissed my first girl? You will never know.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmmm.. remind me to put your dexterity to the test when I come over... wish me luck everybody by the way, I am in a full contact karate competition tonight against the next town - Last time I did one of these I was knocked unconscious

I am going to Marin County which is north of San Francisco over the Golden Gate - I guess I will be flying in through Newark but if I make it via Logan, I will let you know - I am trying to persuade Air France to fly me via Tahiti - I went to Marin County about 2 years ago - damn, San Franscisco is a nice place although very expensive - one of the few American cities that has a vague European feel to it - trouble is, where I am going (Novato) is about at exciting as colonic irrigation - when I was there 2 years ago, I had a free day there and went and got horribly sunburnt falling asleep at some country club and then went to this park/mountain called Mount Tamalpais, there I got bitten by a raccoon!
As a foreigner, you have not travelled in the US until you have had some idiot from Minneapolis complimenting you on your wondeful accent whilst you are merrily losing pints of blood from severed digits

And as for when you kissed your first girl, I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and am assuming you were an early starter (if they let you kiss girls pre-marriage back in the 1870's)

[ May 21, 2002, 11:51: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[Growltigga]

Originally posted by mac5732:
GT, With age comes, wisdom, knowledge, calmness, relaxation, peaceful bliss, comprehension of the meaning of life and the universe, and knowing that no matter what you youngsters are doing or thinking of doing, I"VE ALREADY DONE IT http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Really? is that true? so you are an expert on toad sexing, macrame and ichibani then?

[Growltigga]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Tiggia. Don't you know the Canadians always bail the English out. I think the past 103 years speak for them selves.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmmm, I dont think I should respond to this Tesco. You seem to me to be quite a nice (if slightly unstable) sort of bloke and I always think it is a little cruel to strip away from people the mental fluffiness they surround themselves with with the harsh cold true reality of things

You just keep on kissing moose and elk and wanting to be a mountie

[Growltigga]

No worries Grasshopper, I shall just wait to find if Degsy is game as well the Great Gnu Gooser from Nairobi

Cry hoppit and let slip the frogs of war

[Gryphin]

Um, Shouldn't that be "Let Leap the frogs of war"?

“Galactic Bash”
If Mephisto will have us,
I propose-(as GT did recently)
Players:
The High Gryphin – Aeries of Gryphin
GrowlTigga – The GrowlTigga Alliance
mac5732 – Some unpronounceable name
Saxon – Bunnies?

A restart of the "Galactic Bash" with the same parameters as before.

In addition I would suggest if we can find a host), A game with the same parameters and open to all comers.

[Growltigga]

Nope, these damn frogs are frothing on their leashes - it is definately a case of letting them slip before they go off and maim and destroy etc

To all players of the Galactic Bash - we want to settle this machoistic posturing nonsense once and for all so because the main game has gone and kyboshed on us, what we want to do is resurrect that game (with all 7 of us - roleplay city) and then have a private 4 way small/medium galaxy gut fest with the main ponces from the Cantina to duke it out

Esel? over to you

[Gryphin]

GT, you say it so eloquently.

[Growltigga]

why thank you dear Gryphin - compliments from you are so unexpected.

I still will not kiss you

[Gryphin]

Hmm, since I can't get a reaction in the "PBW Ethics" thread, I'll repost myself here:
"I guess to me, the goal is to play the best game I can. I don't really care if I win or lose. My victory conditions in every game I have played in the past 2 decades has been: "To Have Phun" I look forward to shreading GrowTigga him with my torps. If he surrenders to Mac and his GTW Crusiers, well, "It Suc**s to be me".
Ethics? That is the other guys problem. He has to look himself in the mirror when he shaves. Who does he see? Is he proud of his core values and does he live up to them?"

[Gryphin]

GT&lt; you won't kiss me? Since it would be non-consensual I'd say that descision is a definate plus for your surival chances.

[tesco samoa]

for your 4 player game I will set it up if you want . Tell me what you want and what to call it.

[Mephisto]

Sorry to be somewhat silent in the past days but RL got to me. I have taken my shotgun, visited our beloved game and had a long talk about screwing up passwords and mixing our data files. Rest in peace. We now have to wait a second for the PBW crew to get the corpse under GTs garage (at least it isn't alone there in the dark...) so I can set up a new game under the same name. Meanwhile all of you should resent their emp files to me so we can start to rumble on the weekend.

[mac5732]

I think tesco should be included in the 4man, so should be 5 man..

Mephisto, do you want them sent to the PBW or to your email address??

just some ideas mac

[ May 21, 2002, 21:49: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

[Mephisto]

EMail. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Gryphin]

I'm ready for what ever combinaiton of Galatic Bash you guys want.

Maybe I should stand in for you in the Karati contest. I do not use my eyes very much when I compete physicaly. It is something else. I tend to use a different combinaiton of senses. You would hae to ask the people who compete against me and those watching.

[Growltigga]

Hey guys, check out the old 'Have you got your rebate yet' thread.

I do believe Phoenix D and Taz-In-Space are making some offensive remarks about our witty banter!

I guess Phoenix D is still upset about my 'have problem getting girls' remark and I guess Taz is upset that Hanna Barbera featured him in a dodgy revamp which had him being repeatedly chased by a pair of anthropomorphic personifications of crocodilia

Some people eh?

Actually guys, I agree that Tesco Samoa should be included in our game as he is after all one of the original protagonists of the G&G thread (Tesco, apologies for missing you off the list but you just are not as rude as Gryphin or Saxon or as knackered as Mac and you have a cute cousin)

This takes us to 5 and this is practically the same as the Galactic Bash anyhow (with Tesco's mate and Slapshot) so why dont we just rerun that?

PS Gryphin - me kissing you would not be consensual in any which way or form. Please will you stop chasing me, I am just not that sort of chap

[Growltigga]

What sort of chap am I????

daft question, just arrange 'good looking, stylish, elegant, intelligent, sophisticated, intellectual, erudite, handsome, fashionable, multilingual, learned, humble, modest, well-read, companiable, amiable and sexy" in any order you want

Sums me up quite nicely I feel.

OK, so this game is going to be 2 Americans, 2 Canadians and 1 Englishman. We need more Europeans to even the balance and to give the game some much needed class.. I can only do so much

[Gryphin]

GTO, you forgot to include:
Computer Illiterate and Modest.

[Growltigga]

Gryphin, puts your specs old bean - "modest" is right there

...as for computer illiterate, well, I tend to send most of my time in the healthy fresh air or reading books... after all, I find young ladies far more attracted to my learned discourses rather than whether or not I know how to download MP3 files or whatever

[Gryphin]

GTO: Tsk, Tsk, I did see it. Clearly you failed to pick up on the subtle irony and wry humor.
I'm sure mac and the other intelligent patrons of the Cantinna will reconize it.

[dogscoff]

We need more Europeans to even the balance and to give the game some much needed class.. I can only do so much
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm a European, and I'm dead classy, too. Can I play?

*Dogscoff pauses for a quick slobber and a scratch before rolling in some cow dung and attempting to lick his own genetalia...

[Growltigga]

Gosh, are you sure about that? I suspect Mac, Saxon and Tesco all think 'irony' is something a bit like 'zincy' or 'steely' or something else metallic

Modesty is one of my more endearing qualities

[Growltigga]

I'm a European, and I'm dead classy, too. Can I play?

hmmm.. I should have made it clear that I meant the criteria as being European, a member of homo sapiens and not someone liable to try and hump Mac's legs

dead classy? with a goatee? PLLLUUUUUUEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEEE

* Dogscoff pauses for a quick slobber and a scratch before rolling in some cow dung and attempting to lick his own genetalia ...[/QB][/QUOTE]

steady Dogscoff, it might be....... BATH TIME http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

[ May 22, 2002, 13:39: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[dogscoff]

steady Dogscoff, it might be....... BATH TIME <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not letting you anywhere near me if you think I need a bath- I've seen how Tiggas wash...

[Growltigga]

washing in our own spit is not a problem as we felines are clean creatures

would you want to be washing in your own spit given that you have freely admitted to licking your own genitalia?

Let's face it, scrutty things like you mutts just dont have the class, sass or panache to take on a Tigga

[dogscoff]

washing in our own spit is not a problem as we felines are clean creatures<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you define "clean" as "covered in spit", then yes, I would agree with that statement.


would you want to be washing in your own spit given that you have freely admitted to licking your own genitalia?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, I said *attempting to*. I'm not that flexible. Cats, on the other hand, can be readily spotted biting burs out of their bumholes on every street corner in the country.


Let's face it, scrutty things like you mutts just dont have the class, sass or panache to take on a Tigga<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Class, sass and panache are the what wussy cats deperately resort to in an attempt to salvage their self respect when they are cowering in trees, hiding from the barking dogs below.

[Growltigga]

If you define "clean" as "covered in spit", then yes, I would agree with that statement.

Yes I would but then feline spit contains various chemicals which condition and clean our coats - I suppose a catty equivalent of "Wash 'n' Go" or teatree oil or something.

What we dont do is roll in a cowpat and think that makes us smell wonderful like your average mutt does

Hey, I said *attempting to*. I'm not that flexible

The fact that you are even trying says quite a lot about you

Cats, on the other hand, can be readily spotted biting burs out of their bumholes on every street corner in the country.

Which comes back to the cleanliness issue again and the fact that we aren't biting burrs out of our bumholes, but instead practising the cello (think about it, think about it)

The first things dogs do however when they meet one another is stick their noses up each others backsides and have a damn good sniff and likc of each others happy sacks - they also eat poo

PS at Last!! someone who has command of the comical uses of alliteration and onomatopeia

Class, sass and panache are the what wussy cats deperately resort to in an attempt to salvage their self respect when they are cowering in trees, hiding from the barking dogs below.

We are looking down on a sea of stupid smiling faces, you however are looking right up a cats' bumhole

and in the reverse situation, what do dogs do when 10 cats turn up? crap themselves (and probably eat it later)

[ May 22, 2002, 14:03: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[tesco samoa]

ok we have two games now.

The bash and another one.
I wrote a new song for both of them.
Theme For An Ultimate And Inevitable Victory. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

So k is running the first one.

I suggest we set the second game on auto turning
small universe. Start in same systems.

It would make it a lot of fun. If K does not want to set up the second game. I will.

[Growltigga]

Tesco, theme for a victory? are you looking for a kicking?

I personally am preparing a modern art display you guys can help me with. It is called 'The expression on a canadian's face when a yank gets stuffed up his bottom"

[dogscoff]

Yes I would but then feline spit contains various chemicals which condition and clean our coats - I suppose a catty equivalent of "Wash 'n' Go" or teatree oil or something.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Maybe, but I still wouldn't want lick my feet clean having spent the entire day running around a field disembowling mice.


What we dont do is roll in a cowpat and think that makes us smell wonderful like your average mutt does
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's actually a primitive but effective form of cloaking device - it can fool herbivorous scent scanner components up to tech level III.


- they also eat poo
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think you have been reading some rather unpleasant (not to mention juvenile) anti-dog propaganda. It's rabbits that eat poo. Dogs just sniff it, to see if it has any cloaking potential.


The fact that you are even trying says quite a lot about you
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You deny it, but I bet you've tried...

[Gryphin]

May Day, May Day, May Day,
This thread is going down in friendly flames. We are in a spiral dive and cannot pull out. mac, tesco, Saxon, do something quick!!!

[Saxon]

We have been in the process of dismissing a staff member, thus my lack of attention to the board. I almost called GT for legal advice, then realized he would offer his services pro bono to the staff member. In any case, I am very much interested in a game, the Bunnies are ready. However, instead of frothing like Tigga’s frogs, they are busy being Bunnies and making more Bunnies to colonize the galaxy. Froth just stains your shirt.

[Growltigga]

I still wouldn't want lick my feet clean having spent the entire day running around a field disembowling mice

hmm.. interesting dichotomy, you dont want to lick your feet after running around chasing mice but you have no problem on slurping on your testicles?

That's actually a primitive but effective form of cloaking device

and really make you smell of sh## and be covered in sh## - personally, I have little to fear from herbivarous creatures

anti-dog propaganda

it is a proven fact that unlike cats, dogs dont have very developed tastebuds - they eat everything and anything, they eat poo

go on, admit it, you fancy chomping on a nice fat jobby

You deny it, but I bet you've tried...

Nope, never have, never will, have no interest, I will leave that to you and the north americans on the forum

PS The Cantina is now at Defcon 4 - I suggest the north americans do something useful for a change and grab some fire extinguishers.. sit back guys and watch some real debating talent kicking into action!

[ May 22, 2002, 15:09: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[Gryphin]

:: Running for a deep deep lead lined shelter ::

[dogscoff]

hmm.. interesting dichotomy, you dont want to lick your feet after running around chasing mice but you have no problem on slurping on your testicles?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you'd been listening instead of cleaning your ears with spit, you'd have noticed me mention that I lack the necessary flexibility for this operation. It's something I'm quite happy to live without, but at least I know where my individual parts have been. Those mice could have been *anywhere*.

personally, I have little to fear from herbivarous creatures <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm sure Saxon's bunnies will have to say on that subject.


it is a proven fact that unlike cats, dogs dont have very developed tastebuds - they eat everything and anything,
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We can put this theory to the test quite easily. Go to the supermarket and buy a tin of dog food. Then buy a tin of cat food. open them both and serve them up.

Which would you say was more appealling, the juicy marrowbone jelly and crunchy biscuits that the canines enjoy, or the stinky, oily fish-mince in most cat foods?

they eat poo<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah? Well you eat poo, too. (The art of reasoned debate lives on:))

Nope, never have, never will, have no interest, <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You know we're never going to believe you, simply 'coz it's more fun that way:D

[Growltigga]

I almost called GT for legal advice, then realized he would offer his services pro bono to the staff member

Dont be so bloody stupid, me? work for free? over your dead body Saxon

[Growltigga]

I lack the necessary flexibility for this operation.

We dont believe you but that is not the point, the salient point here is that you have obviously tried and repeatedly tried at that.. let me introduce to no doubt a fundamentally new concept for you called a 'girlfriend'.....

It's something I'm quite happy to live without,

Are you sure this is not a matter of circumstance rather than choice?

Those mice could have been *anywhere*.

but nowhere worse than where your wedding tackle would have been

I'm sure Saxon's bunnies will have to say on that subject.

they will say, Growltiggas are much nicer things to associate with than a dog covered in sh##

Go to the supermarket and buy a tin of dog food. Then buy a tin of cat food. open them both and serve them up.

..and you will find by looking at the ingredients label that the cat food contains far more recognisable things than the pig scrapings and tripe found in winalot.. scientifically proven fact (and explains why catfood is far more expensive)

Well you eat poo, too.

What next? Teddy bears at dawn? I think we have now successfully proven that dogs eat poo

You know we're never going to believe you, simply 'coz it's more fun that way

Possibly, but then you are now going to have an awfully hard time living down the confession that DOgscoff spends his time bent double trying to.....well, let's just leave it there shall we

Prepare to go to Defcon 5
Whilst Guffin is in that shelter, can someone please bury him

[dogscoff]

but nowhere worse than where your wedding tackle would have been
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Funny you should have mentioned my girlfriend, because she would probably take issue with you on this point, but I think we're probably getting beyond the realms of a famiily forum.


...scientifically proven fact...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm reminded of a quote from *that* episode of Brasseye: "There's no real proof for it, but it's a scientific fact."

[Growltigga]

Funny you should have mentioned my girlfriend, because she would probably take issue with you on this point

The poor girl has my deepest sympathy, she really does but on the other hand.. given that she is obviously attracted to a lupine fellow with a goatee.... no, she still has my sympathy (unless she is a poodle)

I'm reminded of a quote from *that* episode of Brasseye: "There's no real proof for it, but it's a scientific fact.

Yes, but you have to recall that Brass Eye was (a rather tasteless) comedy, therefore its expressions can only be utilised for their humour content only and not for some exacting statement

Cantina patrons, you come out now, we are reverting to Defcon 2 as I have obviously won this exchange (hardly a challenge as the battle of intellects go)

[Gryphin]

dogscoff Tigga razzz
Now it becomes redundant
Good time no winners

[Gryphin]

“Galactic Bash Open”
dogscoff please join in the fray
Make Tigga dogfood

[dogscoff]

[quoteYes, but you have to recall that Brass Eye was (a rather tasteless) comedy, [/quote]

That depends on whether you consider comedy and satire to be different things. I do.

Brasseye was satire, and it's (deliberate, forced) tastelessness was simply an illustration of the hideously tasteless way in which the *real* media have exploited *real* paedophilia in order to gleefully whip up hysteria and sell more newspapers.

[Growltigga]

I disagree, I view satire as simply a form of comedy. Satire truly developed into its current form in the 80's with the rise of shows like The Young Ones and Spitting Image and these were simply relying on satire to provide the comical element. The same way as say 'Have I got news for you' is satire rather than true comedy (like Shooting Stars)

IMHO, Brass Eye was appalling - be satirical, be comical, dont make a joke in any which way or form about something as sick as paedophilia. The money used by Chris Morris to make Brass Eye could have found much better uses elsewhere helping prevent paedophilia, rather than what was quite frankly an irrelevant and irreverant bag of ****e

On a related point, I was in a karate competetion Last night and one of the regular competitors is a careworker in a childrens' home who, we found out a couple of days ago, is currently being investigated for abusing children based on the allegations of a very dsisturbed child. Did he do it or didn't he? I dont know and apparently in that dsort of situation it is less than 50:50 certain as allegations are far more common than actual abuse. He is a pleasant enough chap but the interesting thing is that he didn't participate Last night and I found out that the other team were drawing lots about who got to fight him. Draw your own conclusions

[Mephisto]

Originally posted by Growltigga:
Cantina patrons, you come out now, we are reverting to Defcon 2 as I have obviously won this exchange (hardly a challenge as the battle of intellects go)<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You are aware that DefCon 2 is only one step from WW3 where 4 is 3 steps away, aren't you?

[Growltigga]

Of course I was Esel, Defcon 2 means we are back to the usual state of armed neutrality the regular possee share here. Easing tensions to Defcon 4 mean I am diverting my considerable aggressive tendencies away from the usual riffraff here in the Cantina and am focussing on shredding some fresh meat, ergo El Scoffo

You should know by now my Teutonic friend that us lawyers will argue with anyone, anytime, over anything

[Gryphin]

GTO:
"Of course I was Esel, Defcon 2 means we are back to the usual state of armed neutrality the regular possee share here. Easing tensions to Defcon 4 mean I am diverting my considerable aggressive tendencies away from the usual riffraff "
Nice try, not very credible, but nice try.

[Growltigga]

Nice try, not very credible, but nice try

Why thank you again Gryphin, thank for your acknowledging that you bask in the great light and glory of my intellect

I thought it was a very creditable and cunning diVersionary story. After all, no-one liokes to be shown up by a smart-alec German

[Gryphin]

GT0:
"After all, no-one liokes to be shown up by a smart-alec German"

More accurately, you don't like to be shown up at all.

Folks: An old girlfriend of mine is visiting us for the next 6 days. I will be in and out of things during that time. I will make sure to get my emp file to Mephisto. and will perform my turns in turn.
Enjoy, play nice.

[Growltigga]

Well, I guess you are right there Gryph old boy but then me being shown up happens so rarely that it has real novelty value... and you have to remember that people dont like novelties.

I am impressed that an old girlfriend wants to come and stay with you... real proof that you are possibly the nice guy you say you are, moustache aside... unless the ex-girlfriend is barking mad which is also possible! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Have a good time, I too will try and whop my GT file up to UberEsel so that battle can recommence...

Actually, we have shipsets for bunnies and squid, does anyone know if we have frogs or other amphibia?

[Gryphin]

I was thinking we should make you a "Lobster" shipset.
The AI for it would the the most fun.
It would be a cross between the EEE and hmm... hwo else..

"unless the ex-girlfriend is barking mad", or bi http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

EDIT: I love novelties from those "specialty shops" that mac seems to study in.

[ May 22, 2002, 17:29: Message edited by: The High Gryphin ]

[Growltigga]

'Lobster'? where the buggery do you get "lobster" from? at what point have I donned chitin, grown claws and proceeded to rock on with the B-52's?

what is it with you and bi females?

the next thing is that you will be "bi" and having a fling with Mac (if you havn't already)!!

[Gryphin]

Rest assured I am quite straight and always will be. My thing with bi women, is well, my thing.

Folks, anyone want to help this Englishman remember "lobster backs / red coats / 1776"?

[Puke]

Originally posted by The High Gryphin:
Rest assured I am quite straight and always will be. My thing with bi women, is well, my thing.

Folks, anyone want to help this Englishman remember "lobster backs / red coats / 1776"?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I always thought it was awfully sportsmanlike of them to put big white Xs on their officers and march all the men in line. I think that their alterior motive was to prune the tree a bit, thin their own herd, as it were.

[dogscoff]

The Young Ones and Spitting Image and these were simply relying on satire to provide the comical element.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">These 2 shows were completely different. The Young Ones was contemporary but wasn't really satire. the only objective was laughter. Spitting Image actively commented on and attacked issues in current affairs. They were both brilliant though=-)

IMHO, Brass Eye was appalling - be satirical, be comical, dont make a joke in any which way or form about something as sick as paedophilia.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">*GRRRR!*
It *wasn't* a joke about paedophilia. It was an attempt to highlight the b*****ds who trivialise it for the sake of profit and glory. The "joke" was on *them*, not on the peadophiles or their victims. Did you even watch it? Most of the uproar came from people who hadn't even seen the show (including certain very vocal politicians), which demonstrates further the fact that the issue of paedophilia in Britain is now so distorted that a person isn't even expected to know any facts whatsoever before making judgemnts.

On a related point, I was in a karate competetion Last night ... the other team were drawing lots about who got to fight {the alleged paedophile}. Draw your own conclusions<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The conclusion I will draw is that paedophilia has been turned by the media into witch-hunt that has nothing to do with real justice. For example, had that guy in the karate competition been an alleged murderer or alleged (adult) rapist would those competitors still have been so eager to dispense a vigilante beating? I doubt it. In that case they probably would rather have seen the legal system deal with it properly.

Just because the guy may (or may not) be a child abuser, and because it's currently open- season on them, our ancient and venerable justice system goes out the window. No trial, no defence, and (worst of all) no rational debate on what the best way to stop these people really is. All that's left is a witch hunt where the only acceptable opinion is the most radical one. This is an extremely dangerous situation and will do *absolutely nothing* to actually resolve or reduce the problem of child molesters.
As a lawyer, I would really expect you to understand the gravity of this Last paragraph.

This is why the media's approach to this issue has been so irresponsible , and why Morris was right to highlight it. He used strong satire- the only medium he knows- and in my opinion did a very good job of showing the media up for what they really are.

BTW, what style of Karate do you practise?

[Gryphin]

Puke, which sorta makes us un sportsman like, but "alls fair in love and war"
Well, war anyway.

[Mephisto]

There is no escape, GT, we just know you to good. And of course, as a lawyer, I could not resist to smart-*** around a bit. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Growltigga]

These 2 shows were completely different

El Scoffo, you are missing the point here. Both shows were different in their DELIVERY, but the underlying conception for each was identical - the comedy club gurus produced both, inputted and wrote both and the intention for each ewas to be satirical in its comedy, one in directly taking the urine out of current affairs, the other by taking it out of yoof culture

*GRRRR!* did you read the interview with Chris Morris in the Sunday Times following Brass Eye? it might well have been a (laudable) atempt to make the media look like a bunch of shysters but he missed the trick by a long way and yes, I did see it and yes, it has been discussed extensively in legal circles.

The highlighting backfire, keep in mind that the 'stars' on the show were duped into appearing, the material was delivered in a slapstick and stupid style and frankly Mr MOrris missed the opportunity to actually do something valid

I do agree with you about some of the political reaction but please, this does not set a precedent between us

Your conclusion for the child carer on the karate competition by the way is what I would expect. I actually have been out tonight with some of the guys from theopposing team whio were drawing lots to kick the **** out of Matthew, the child carer. You are right but luckily these are intelligent people whoi can see thorugh the knee jerk reaction and think logicaslly about it, innocent until proven guilty and all that. It is not so much a witch hunt a la southampton housing estate (which I can, deep down understand) but more your natural reaction. I would beat up morris dancers, line dancers, paedophiles and Gryphin on spec as well

The media's approach to this issue and others IS irresponsible but so it is too too many other issues that matter. Morris' problem was conceding cutting edge to pure Ratings and not doing a pukka enough job of it - he had an opportunity to really make a statement, and in the end just caused a bit of mild embarassment, Anne Widdicombe changing her hair colour was more controversial - Morris is a self centred pillock IMHO who simply uses shock tactics in place of good satire to get Ratings

PS I am a corporate lawyer - I dont effect people other than in a "mass" way

PPS Shotokan, but I have done that for about 12 years and go to a club that does Shotokan, but also freestyle, kick boxing, escrima (yes there is one), tai kwondo and general self defence for girls

The latter has no bearing whatsoever on why I go

PPS I am so pissed I have just fallen over the cat

PPPS some of you might be delighted to hear that I got through to the second round Last night and then met Steve, 22 stone, 6 ft 6, ex-royal marine unarmed combat instructor (I didnt know when I went in), not so much a 6 pack but a brewery etc
needless to say I lost (including 1 tooth)

[ May 22, 2002, 21:39: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[Gryphin]

GT0,
Well, I don't mind that you lost the match. I do hope you did not lose a tooth.
I just wonder what you will tell people when you lose to me in the Galactic Bash.

[Gryphin]

Tesco,
I'm all for having you in the Galactic Bash. I'm glad GrowlTigga came to some of his sences.

GrowlTigga, just waht sort of chap are you?

[tesco samoa]

Geez 6 hours away and 2 pages of Posts.

Young ones had Cliff. Case closed.

You two ever here of ICQ.

But then the banter would not be recorded for all to see.

So.................... whats up with the games.

k-m I need your email address again. can you send me a message to my home address.

Mac That sauce is on the way again.

3 times a charm. I put a new jar in.

On the bathroom front. I have now got an empty shell where a bathroom once stood.

7x9 room empty.

[tesco samoa]

http://www.theonion.com/onion3818/mexi-canadian_overpass.html

I had to post this.

[dogscoff]

'Tig, I'm tempted to keep arguing but I think the rest of the forum is sick of it, so we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Take it out on me when we meet up on PBW:)

I've been practising shotokan for about 5 or 6 years now. I've had various periods when I was either not training at all or training and not grading, so I'm only 8th kyu.

[Growltigga]

why cant I delete my Posts?

[ May 23, 2002, 08:52: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[Growltigga]

El Scoffo, may be you are right. I am sure the north americans and europeans on this forum didn't even see Brass Eye. Pity, I do love a good argument and at least you have admitted that you eat poo and lick your own genitalia

I am 3rd kyu but havn't had time to go any further really. The ranking annoys me a bit and I think Shotkan karate types are absolute snobs when it comes to belts, gi and stuff. I want to do more kickboxing as it is a better workout and probably more use when I finally come face to face with Gryphin!!

Gryphin, I lost half a tooth (seriously) from a rather nasty punch to my jaw whilst my head was being ground into the mat by his foot. I go to the dentist this evening. I can honestly say that I am black and blue and red and feel like I have been in a sumo match with a particarily huge sumo wrestler who didnt get his lunch. I was well and truly outclassed, outmatched and thrashed. Decent bloke tho my oppo as he did by me a couple of beers to compensate.

[dogscoff]

at least you have admitted that you eat poo<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">*sigh*, you have to have the Last word, don't you? I admitted nothing (and I have nothing to admit). Ah well.

The ranking annoys me a bit and I think Shotokan karate types are absolute snobs when it comes to belts, gi and stuff.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've heard that high up in most of the UK Karate organisations, snobbery and lame politics are rife- I have met plenty of ppl who've got to their 2nd or 3rd Dan and become so dissillusioned with all the *****ing and backstabbing that they have moved away from karate altogether.

I've been lucky, because although I've trained at loads of different clubs as I've moved around, I've always been able to find at least one sensei who just wants to teach good karate, without any of that crap getting in the way.

I want to do more kickboxing as it is a better workout and probably more use when I finally come face to face with Gryphin!!<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not really qualified to start on about the comparative merits of different martial arts (and it's one of those discussions that usually degenerates into farcical stories about who's hardest) but I'm surprised to hear you say that- I'd have thought Shotokan would be far more useful IRL than kick boxing, and a better all-round workout, too.


Gryphin, I lost half a tooth (seriously) from a rather nasty punch to my jaw whilst my head was being ground into the mat by his foot. I go to the dentist this evening.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And the moral of the story? If you like your face the way it is, don't do full contact karate. I've never met a full contact person with all their own teeth.

[Mephisto]

Originally posted by dogscoff:
*sigh*, you have to have the Last word, don't you?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As GT once but it. Of course! If everything else fails, our Last words are: "Here is your bill." http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Growltigga]

*sigh*, you have to have the Last word, don't you?

Yes stinky breath

I have met plenty of ppl who've got to their 2nd or 3rd Dan and become so dissillusioned with all the *****ing and backstabbing that they have moved away from karate altogether.

It is true, very true, karate is just like any other office organisation and full of backstabbers and brown nosers - really annoys me as this is meant to be a hobby

it's one of those discussions that usually degenerates into farcical stories about who's hardest)

that is definately the ex-Royal Marine

I'd have thought Shotokan would be far more useful IRL than kick boxing, and a better all-round workout, too.

not sure, I feel Shotokan spends far too much time copncentrating on kata and not enough on power combinations and defence mitts

If you like your face the way it is, don't do full contact karate.

Yep, unfortunately, no-one else like my face either

[Saxon]

All this talk of karate has helped me come up with yet another brilliant idea. Instead of having a SEIV duel to sort our Tigga and Gyphin, we will have them duel in person. Some of you may have seen the Sumo Suits which are often present at fun fairs. They are giant rubber suits that look like Sumo wrestlers and weight a ton. Once you wear one, you waddle into the ring and then face off against another person, similarly encumbered. The testosterone will be crackling and they can fight it out with no risk to their teeth and mustaches.

It seems to me that this would balance the pair out and give them a good method of sorting out affairs. I also think it would be great fun for the rest of us to see them waddling around wearing rubber suits.

Oh, the Young Ones was crap, but Have I Got News for You is delightful.

[Growltigga]

Saxon, that is probably unfair on Gryphin as I weigh in at 18 stone (100kgs which I think is about 220 pounds for you Yanks) - Gryphin looks far more svelte than that and I would have an unfair weight advantage, as well as being much better looking, suave, sophisticated, stylish, hair-free etc

I suggest an underwater duel with suckerdarts or a paintball challenge

The Young Ones was brilliant at the time. Same as Blackadder, at the time, hysterical, now, a little jaded perhaps

Another brilliant idea Saxon?? when was your first one?

[ May 23, 2002, 10:50: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[dogscoff]

not sure, I feel Shotokan spends far too much time copncentrating on kata and not enough on power combinations and defence mitts
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It depends where you train. The first place I trained (Coventry Uni - very good club) we had a proper punchbag (one of the full-size, heavy-as-a-person ones hanging from the ceiling), mits, and every Sunday we'd have a 2 hour session devoted to kumite and working on the bags & mitts. Where I am now, the kata and technique is superb but they consider bags & mitts completely unnecessary and turn their noses up slightly at the mere suggestion.

Personally I don't think you can learn to punch and kick properly if you never actually make contact with anything. how do you know you're doing it right otherwise?

I still wouldn't do full- contact though.

As for power combinations... I would argue that they're not really necessary- I've been taught that the whole ethos of Shotokan is that you only need to hit them once.

[dogscoff]

Oh, the Young Ones was crap,
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">*Gasp* ... Blasphemy!

I loved the Young Ones, and still do. It mightnot be the mid-80s any more but the slapstick and anarchy is timeless. Every time I see Mike nail his legs to the table I crack up.

Not to mention the stupid one-liners:

Viv: Mike, what's good for a hangover?
Mike: Drinking heavily the night before.

Peasant #1: What's new?
Peasant #2: Microchip technology.

[Growltigga]

Where I am now, the kata and technique is superb but they consider bags & mitts completely unnecessary and turn their noses up slightly at the mere suggestion.

That is always the way - many clubs will concentrate on kata and how Daz-white their gi are - not enough actually concentrate on the power aspect of it - I am 6 foot and 18 stone, what the hell am I going to do with kata - my whole style is close-in power combos (and biting if I am really in trouble)

Personally I don't think you can learn to punch and kick properly if you never actually make contact with anything. how do you know you're doing it right otherwise?

Dogscoff, we agree on something. Unfortunately, my wife also thinks this is correct and that I am the punchbag.

I still wouldn't do full- contact though.

I think I am now officially retiring from full contact now. My weight says that I fight heavy/super heavy categories whcih usualy means the Dolph Lundgrens of this world - they put their hands on my head and hold me off that way

As for power combinations... I would argue that they're not really necessary- I've been taught that the whole ethos of Shotokan is that you only need to hit them once.

I disagree. To get that perfect strike in that disables your opponent is fine for Jet Li in a movie, but you try and do it IRL - the only strikes that will work that way are some of the lethal attacks and you cannot exactly do those round Bournemouth for long. Power combos disable an opponent and do it fast.

[Saxon]

Tigga,

I would suggest leaving a paint ball fight off your list of duels with Gryph. After all, he is American and is likely to have genetic skills in the use of guns. You wouldn’t challenge a Brazilian in football or a Canadian in a moose kissing contest, so don’t run the risk of a gun slinging match with an American with a Wild West Mustache.

I also have a technical question for you. At what dan do you learn the Glasgow Kiss?

[dogscoff]

That is always the way - many clubs will concentrate on kata and how Daz-white their gi are -
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Definitely sounds like you need to find a new club. I know for a fact that what you are looking for *is* out there. I have no idea what is available where you are but I'd have thought you'd get a pretty good selection being in a major urban centre as you are.


not enough actually concentrate on the power aspect of it - I am 6 foot and 18 stone, what the hell am I going to do with kata
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well... to be fair, kata isn't supposed to be taken quite so literally - it's a way of practising and remembering techniques, and the skills you learn from kata should be transferrable to whatever techniques and combinations you like. That said, you do need a balanced training regime, or you'll have nothing to transfer the skills to.


- my whole style is close-in power combos (and biting if I am really in trouble)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well then maybe you do need to try a different martial art. Perhaps some of the grip/twist/hold/break ones. Aikido? Kung-Fu has some cool maneuvres. I think you'll find that kick boxing is even more long-ranged than shotokan.

I think I am now officially retiring from full contact now.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can't imagine why you got into it in the first place.


I disagree. To get that perfect strike in that disables your opponent is fine for Jet Li in a movie, but you try and do it IRL - the only strikes that will work that way are some of the lethal attacks and you cannot exactly do those round Bournemouth for long. Power combos disable an opponent and do it fast.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I guess it depends who you're up against. You fight in the arena against other martial artists. For me, that would be a means to an end rather than an end in itself, so maybe we're not aiming at the same target.

The most likely situation for me to get into a fight would be with some beered- up idiot falling out of a pub. I might well run into an experienced bruiser but it's unlikely that I'd come up against anyone with any real martial arts training- I'm just too placid to get into a fight with anyone who has the patience to train regularly.

In that case (ie they are more drunk and less trained than me) I think there's probably a reasonable chance of landing a "perfect" (or at least good enough) strike. "Good enough" doesn't necessarily have to mean a KO either - just enough to make them think again or at least give me room to finish them off.

Street-fighting comes down largely to luck anyway - who you're up against, what weapons they have, how many mates are stood behind them, how determined they are to hurt you, how much everyone has had to drink... these are all pretty much random variables. The best you can do (other than avoiding the fight in the first place) is to arm yourself with a technique that is geared towards real combat rather than competition and/ or meditation and/ or impressing girlies. I think Shotokan fits that description.

Wow... I can really ramble, can't I?

[Growltigga]

Saxon, you must remember that Americans do not have more intrinsic ability with guns than any other race in the world - what they do have is an innate ability to get overweight, put on combat fatigues and run around their house going 'hut hut hut' whilst practising swarm dives and keeping enough weaponry in their garages to equip a modest latin american revolution. They also tend to drive jeeps with 'Neighbourhood Watch types do it in bunkers" stickers or something similar stuck on the back.

Us Europeans just have little old ladies looking through net curtains

You learn the 'Glasgow Kiss' at 9th Kyu. This is the same time that you learn to say, in a Scottish accent, "Has your mother got a sewing machine?, well tell her to stitch that".

You also learn that 2 smashed bottles (1 in each hand) is a great equaliser and that a half brick in a sock is one of the most fearsome street weapons you can face.

[mac5732]

aahhh you youngsters, all this violent talk of fighting, you should take it from us older, mature, suave, domesticated, sexy, persona's of the world. The fighting I enjoy the most, is when you cuddle up and do the smoooochyy technique with a very endowed fillie, now that my good GT and Dogscoff leads to a lot more enjoyment than standing toe to toe bashing in each others grey matter. Aahhh you youngsters still have a lot to learn I must say...

Saxon, I see that you are feeling better, that is a glorious revelation, Glad to see your back and feisty as ever.

Mephisto, you are quite right concerning the bill, have you ever seen what a lawyer charges, when one opens that formal piece of paper, the intake of oxygen becomes enormous to the point one cannot breathe, thus nothing more can be said until after much rest and meds.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Dogscoff, I also agree, join in the Galactic extraveganza where we ply the universe with our weapons of conquest.

lets see now, we have a Puddy Tat, Fluffy Bunnies, a Gryphin, a Doggie, a Sauce maker, and a suave, mature, gentle, lovable, congenial, sexy, debonair, scientific person of the world, so far in the game. Hmmmm this is one diversified group I must say... (Tesco, is your friend still going to play,)?

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[Mephisto]

Originally posted by mac5732:
Mephisto, you are quite right concerning the bill, have you ever seen what a lawyer charges, when one opens that formal piece of paper, the intake of oxygen becomes enormous to the point one cannot breathe, thus nothing more can be said until after much rest and meds.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You see, it was very wise of me to be a lawyer so I can give my vitim the bill and then be a paramedic to charge him right again for the much needed help. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Growltigga]

The fighting I enjoy the most, is when you cuddle up and do the smoooochyy technique with a very endowed fillie

that may be but I suspect the fighting you get most is the said well endowed young fillie giving you a good kicking for being so presumptuous as expecting her to want to have YOU do the "smoooochyy" technique with her (is that Polish BTW?)

have you ever seen what a lawyer charges

machines guns, neutron bombs, nuclear bombs etc are all fine but none of these have the terror and awful effect of a well directed legal bill

B]we have a Puddy Tat, Fluffy Bunnies, a Gryphin, a Doggie, a Sauce maker, and a [/B]

We have a cool Englishman, an elephant snogging Canadian with weedy legs, a mobile moustache with a person attached to it, someone who has really bad breath and licks his own "bits", another Canadian who mixes culinary disasters with kissing moose and an aging hand-shandy shuffler.

All we need now is a cross dressing line dancing michael schenker lookalike.

Hmmmm Mephisto, what are you doing for the next couple of months http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Saxon]

Weedy legs? Of course my legs are weedy, it is the cost of having a waist line that does not reach Shreck-like proportions.

[Growltigga]

My waistline is not of Shrek like proportions, I am extremely sturdily built

Not an ounce of fat on this frame I can tell thee

so listen, wiener-boy, dont go insulting your betters when you have turkey legs like yours - I have seen more substance on a KFC hot wing

Anyhow, my wife says I have centurion's legs

[Gryphin]

You really know you are addicted to SE IV
102) When you have 2 beautiful women with you and you post to the Forum

[Growltigga]

Do you know, I am sure the rest of the Cantina must agree that the only thing worse in life than being in the company of an arrogant, argumentative, sassy english lawyer is being in the company of a sexual tyrranosaurus gloating over the totty quotient in his gaff.

Actually, I think having electrodes tied to your naughty bits and 10,000 volts put through them is probably quite bad

[Gryphin]

As one of my lovelies pointed out, "Amps kill, not watts", Cleary you have areas of ignorance.

[tesco samoa]

tigga. Hot stuff in England is a myth. It's like a tiger in Africa.

Mac. Yep there playing in the revamp of the galatic battle.

If they get there races to K-M in time.

To those who live in canada ( GTA )

www.cyberjet.com... (http://www.cyberjet.com...) anyone here use it.

My dsl has descided to limit the U/D to 5 GB a month with a 7.95 per GB over usage.

Which in my book is crap.

Also if they know of any other dsl providers let me know.

Cyberjet looks ok

[Growltigga]

Gryphin, I am too busy to worry about electrical terminology - I pay a man to deal with that for me
Anyhow, if you were reading my post I said painful, not fatal

Tesco, you do get tigers in Africa, I have seen them myself

[mac5732]

Tesco, Do you have cable modem up there in the Klondike?? If you do you may want to switch from DSL to cable. I just got cable modem myself and found it to be better then DSL.

Glad your friends plan on joining us for the international bash.. I hope they are into Banter, especially with this diverse bunch of SE4 groupies
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[Growltigga]

yawn, I am going to open a new thread called 'The Phong's Head Cantina Nerd's Room for Technical Talk' and banish you two to it

[tesco samoa]

Up here in Canada the free democratic and captialist society of Ontario and Canada have decided that to stimulate competition and fair market bah bah.... only one cable company is needed. It's called Rogers. I was a member for years. But if you do not have cable you have to pay an extra 15$ a month. And 60$ is allot of money for internet access. (plus taxes )

[Captain Kwok]

Tesco, Do you have cable modem up there in the Klondike?? If you do you may want to switch from DSL to cable. I just got cable modem myself and found it to be better then DSL. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, Canada has the highest per capita usage of high-speed internet (DSL or Cable). I use Rogers Cable myself and haven't had any problems in over a year. It's about 40$ CAN or 25$ US a month and I think it is well worth it. I never want to touch a dial-up modem again.

[Growltigga]

doubling up again - help?

[ May 23, 2002, 12:03: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[Growltigga]

Definitely sounds like you need to find a new club

No, no, no, you miss my point - my club is great - it is balanced training

being in a major urban centre as you are.

I spend as little time in Manchester as possible and actually live in the Cheshire countryside

to be fair, kata isn't supposed to be taken quite so literally

I knew d'at, my point is that kata is the be all and end all at many clubs.

I think you'll find that kick boxing is even more long-ranged than shotokan.

It is not actually. A lot of it is close range attack combinations and using elbows and knees. The distance punching and kicking is not as fluid as the Shotokan style but is more... tough to describve but instinctive sums it up.

I can't imagine why you got into it in the first place.

seemed a good idea for the first 30 seconds but then I won my first few fights (that biting is a great leveller)

The best you can do (other than avoiding the fight in the first place) is to arm yourself with a technique that is geared towards real combat rather than competition and/ or meditation and/ or impressing girlies. I think Shotokan fits that description.

I agreer with all this but what you also jhave to remeber is that you are as likley to be as drunk as El Smeggo who is having a pop at you. You try doing a spinkick when you need to hold onto the floor for support

Wow... I can really ramble, can't I?

Yes, but it is one of your more endearing qualities

[dogscoff]

also jhave to remeber is that you are as likley to be as drunk as El Smeggo who is having a pop at you. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">True, but this applies to any form of self-defence, from karate to kickboxing to gun ownership to running away. The only possible solution is to stay sober, which in my opinion is worse than getting your head kicked in.

[Growltigga]

Scoffo, LOL

Yes, I would rather be drunk than standing at the bar scowling at everyone looking (or trying to look) hard

[Gozra]

HEY! Where can you get a drink around here?

[mac5732]

Capt. Kwok, I agree, never again for a dial up modem, except in emergency or from a friends house, I have cable tv, so with the tv and the cable modem i pay around $34 a month, I was already paying $29 just for the tv, so it was only $5 more a month... the only problem is that even if your comp is turned off, someone can still hack thru, so when my system not if use, I just unplug the old metal beastie, (it also keeps it from thinking up new ways to frustrate me) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I sent my race into Mephisto....for the game, let loose the doggies, puddy tats, fluffy bunnies, and whatever else of war,..... the universe will never be the same again..

Gozra, Brewskis are available along with fine cuisine from Tesco or Puke's wonder sauces. Eat drink and be merry here at the ole Cantina, everyone is welcome, so join in with discussion or banter, pull up a chair, plug in the old metal contraption and enjoy yourself....

PS. ON TV news the Last two days, supposedly, a well respected doctor has come foreward and said that the "KING" (Elvis) is alive and that his death was a hoax. He has passed lie detector and CVSA tests, they are cking handwriting and DNA for confirmation. Supposedly his ex wife and family know about it... He's supposed to be coming out sometime this year as he is ill and wants to make a clean slate.... Very interesting story. If true, it will be greatest hoax of the century. just thought you might want to know..

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas

[ May 24, 2002, 04:07: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

[Saxon]

Tigga,

I am sure your wife likes centurion legs. We have already established that she is risen from the grave and the Last centurion died 1700 years ago, so there is little doubt she likes the undead look.

However, I am still confused by your conflicting testimony. The Supermodel down the hall claims you look like Shreck, yet you claim to be leaner than lean. My memory of Shreck was that he was green and fat. Unless you can resolve this material discrepancy, I will be forced to assume that you are either fat, green or full of hot air. Actually, I think that I may have just found the truth…

[Fyron]

Mac, if your computer is turned off, nobody can hack into it. Nothing can be done in a computer if no electricity is going through the circuits and such.

[Saxon]

Tigga,
More seriously, why not judo? I know it is not as much fun a kicking people, but you still get to have the entertainment of real matches but with a reduced level of broken teeth.

[Growltigga]

Saxon, the good looking blart down the hall says I look like Shrek as I have no hair, not because I am green and fat. I know because I just went and asked her (and what a hardship that was). I am built on stoic lines, a la Brian Blessed as Voltan in Flash Gordon

I have decided to be a pacifist and have given up all forms of martial arts. I am now taking advantage of the slight spelling mistake to practice marital arts instead - still a good workout but less chance of someone trying to kick your teeth into the back of your head

[Mephisto]

People, stop *****ing around for a second and sent me in your races. No one except Mac has done so. Ok, now you can go on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Growltigga]

As a proclaimed pacifist, I can no longer participate in the purile computer games partaken on this forum as they encompass and encourage a tendency toward animated violence to fellow competitors. I feel that my karma can no longer associate with such negative characters as are sighted on this forum.

Brethren, I feel that your souls need the psychic equivalent of a quick wash and brush up before you can take your places amongst your fellows. To this end, I have now established The Cosmic Church of Universal Uncertainty and encourage all of you to give up your worldly goods and come join me in peace and harmony. I take cheque, cash, bankers order, Visa and Mastercard.

NB I have also changed my name to a suitably eastern name to reflect my new guru status

[ May 24, 2002, 10:47: Message edited by: Chicken Tigga Masala ]

[mac5732]

Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast to the real world....

Rev.Chicken Tigga Masala, I would send you my worldly goods to embrace upon your road of peace, prosperitcy, and tranquility, however, Mrs M. would not take kindly to my sending you the few things that we own in this worldly place of falsificaction of ones true essance. However, I have managed to pry, from beneathe her knowledge, several articles for your new revelations. I shall endeavor to send them to you with the knowledge that Customs may not let the package go thru due to its composition. But I shall proceed foreward and what shall happen shall happen.

Thou shalt not weigh more than thy refrigerator

a most humble, repentent mac

[mac5732]

Imperator Fyron, That shows you how illiterate I am in regards to these metal, frustrating, piles of recycled nuts and bolts. I was told by so called computer gurus, that even if your comp was turned off, as long as it was plugged in, a hacker could find a way to access your system espeically if he new or found your IPS

a learning mac

[Growltigga]

Ah so, Mac5732, it is good to see that you are so far advanced down the path of enlightenment and are truly ready to begin your heavenly journey toward tranquility and redemption.

I will do my best to assist you in this journey. The path is hard and temptations are many but as a Yen Buddist, it is my heavenly duty to bring you to enlightenment by taking from you all the evils of worldly wealth insofar as this relates to disposable income.

You are taking the right steps Mac5732, send me a cheque in at least $500 made to The Cosmic Church of Universal Uncertainty and next spoke of the wheel of karma will be yours

[ May 24, 2002, 16:19: Message edited by: Chicken Tigga Masala ]

[Gryphin]

growltigga, Your High Pontificateness,
Is this your way of backing out of the game again? Do you conceede defeat to The High Gryphin? If so, you must grow a mustache and learn line dancing.

Mephisto: The Aeris of Gryphin will be there by 6 my time.

[tesco samoa]

K-M can you send me an email.

I no longer have your email address.

THen I will send you the race

[Growltigga]

Dear Gryphin, I have never seen such a mean dispirited vicious individual such as yourself.

Of course I will be participating in the game, but more in a peace loving and kindly role than before.

I will be the one spreading peace amongst the stars and ensuring that love and calmness prevail.

Of course, minor jihads may be necessaary where the distribution of wealth is not fair and consensual