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Old May 4th, 2008, 12:01 PM

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Default plz combine europe universalis: Rome and dom 3

I've just started playing Rome and I like the game... the realism behind it. It takes years and years to get anywhere (colonize). Wars are fought mostly short and then peaced without actually gaining land, just money as tribute etc etc I can really imagine that thats how things where 2500 years ago. Research is slow, building buildings etc a REAL investment (years of saving). You also see generations of the ruling families pass by over the years each with their own strengths and weaknesses.

There is moral in armies and population etc, battles are also not directly controle like in DOM

I'd love to see this game combined with dominions (there seem to be mod options for rome but I've got no idea what you could do)

Rome with
- great fantasy nations
- a bit faster expansion
- magic weapons and magic
- pretender gods
- more type of units
would be so nice

Or vice versa
Dominions with
- a bit more realistic province management
- a bit more realistic war options (I know dom seems good already but what they are doing in rome seems very realistic)
(hmm what more to add, dom almost has it all..)

So can anyone of you programming guys do this for me

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Default Re: plz combine europe universalis: Rome and dom 3

Yeah I'll get right on that.
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Default Re: plz combine europe universalis: Rome and dom 3

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Default Re: plz combine europe universalis: Rome and dom 3

It would be nice, of course, but who here could do that? Europa Universalis series isn't Dominions, and Dominions isn't EU; some mods can help there, but those would happen in the Universalis end and people here aren't the best people to ask for that.
Total conversion mods would be very hard or perhaps even impossible to do. Even if it was technically possible, there's copyright to consider. If Shrapnel Games let anyone "borrow" the likeness of Dominions races, depending on copyright laws they might have to let everyone, including other publishers, do that.

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Default Re: plz combine europe universalis: Rome and dom 3

Oh, it's not a hard problem. All it would take is access to the source code for both games and the folks who wrote them, a while to study the problem, and months to years of effort to merge all the pieces in a sensible way.

I'd do it myself, but I'm a little busy right now.
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Default Re: plz combine europe universalis: Rome and dom 3

The easiest way to fulfill your wish is to mod Rome, since it already has the engine required to handle all the gameplay mechanics that you want*. Of course, it would still take months.
*-At least since you said there is research in Rome. I don't remember any ability to research, but I've barely played the game, so I might be wrong.
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This one is easy, I'll start praying for a miracle right away...
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IF somebody wonders, there is NO research in Rome TW. What it actually contains are pre-planned events notifying players about occurrences of inventions of watermill, compass, gunpowder, etc. Also, it contains some game-mechanics absent in Dominions, such as combat bonus in certain terrain, or fear caused to infantry/cavalry only (famous camels!). And it doesn't contain magic or, e.g. flight. And this is without mentioning such negligible fact that RTW uses 3D real-time tactical engine...
There was an attempt at WarHammer Total War mod, but I'm not sure how close it came to modelling fantasy, as I personally couldn't make it work at all. And at the time of its disappearance from the Web its authors made only 3 WarHammer armies - Empire, some Chaos & High Elves.
As for Dominions mod - you would probably need to re-write main game engine to include provincial buildings..
hmm.. It was a joke, right?
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Default Re: plz combine europe universalis: Rome and dom 3

There is research you need to put pplz on it else nothing happens... but it's slow (sort of a returning thing in that game )

Wrana I see you say rome TW, which I guess is Rome: total war.. which probably is a nice game but I've not seen it.. I'm talking about Europa Universalis: Rome
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Default Re: plz combine europe universalis: Rome and dom 3

Europe Universalis: Rome looks like something I would enjoy playing.

I was playing around with ideas for a game that I wanted to design when I found Dominions. Dominions came so close to what I wanted to do that I found myself playing it instead of pursuing my own gaming project. There are still many elements that it seems will never come to Dom (like external, script-able AI) so I have begun picking at my old project again. My point is that this is a perfectly reasonable request. Who knows, there might be a programmer out there with skill (unlike myself ) who might be inspired.
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