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Old April 4th, 2008, 01:54 PM
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Default How to deal with Darkness?

Just curious if you are playing a nation like Eriu with no death magic how you deal with the BF spell Darkness?
I am guessing the normal way is to summon undead or other creatures that are not impacted by it (is that true?)but are there any other effective counters?

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Default Re: How to deal with Darkness?

Solar brilliance negates darkness, but you'll need a high astral mage to cast it.

Other than that, undead and demons are indeed unaffected and can help you out. Some other summons like trolls have at least partial darkvision. Otherwise any chaff (or any type of unit really) preferably buffed with army of gold/lead that can survive for long enough without relying on it's defense, while your mages cast battlefield-damage spells, or just large area evocation where their precision isn't that important, can do the trick.
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Default Re: How to deal with Darkness?

FYI Tuatha/Sidhe lords have partial darkvision as well.
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Default Re: How to deal with Darkness?

IF the opponent has strong high level battlefield spells you will loose if you don't have any.
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Default Re: How to deal with Darkness?

Doesn't Solar Brilliance also blind your own troops?

I know that the one cast by the Forbidden Light will ruin an army in less than
ten turns. If the regular Solar Brilliance does the same, the cure is worse
than the disease.

We could REALLY use a battlefield Dispell, or a spell that makes battlefield
enchantments twice as hard to cast.
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Default Re: How to deal with Darkness?

Battlefield Dispel would do something Very Bad:

It would make Astral magic even more powerful than it is. Worse, it would give an effective counter to nearly any strategy that you could develop with battlefield enchantments. It would be a lot better if there were situational counters.

If Death mages can cast Darkness, maybe Fire or Air or Astral mages should be able to cast Light, that can affect Darkvision and/or undead units, or 'dispel' darkness. Have a light/darkness level on the battlefield, the same as temperature. Maybe tied in with Death/Growth scales?
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Default Re: How to deal with Darkness?

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Doesn't Solar Brilliance also blind your own troops?

I'm not 100% sure I remember correctly, but I seem to recall that darkness and solar brilliance cancel each other out, leaving no ill effects of any kind.
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Default Re: How to deal with Darkness?

Darkness and Solar Brilliance are cast, in both possible orders.

Both icons appear in the right hand corner.
Units do not experience defense/attack penalties.
Units get blinded. (There appears to be a MR check, but that may be just luck
or the effects of regeneration)
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Pretty sure there's an MR check.
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Default Re: How to deal with Darkness?

You can counter Darkness by killing the caster, if he has not fled the battle. If you have an E bless, you should have access to Troll Kings for Earthquakes. The trolls have partial DV too. If you can get blood stones, then a Bean with E1 and boots and the stone can cast Rain of Stones too (Mistform first). The Darkness caster is likely to cast Darkness in any assassination attempts. So Earth Attack his army, and hope you nail whoever is the Darkness caster, since he'll likely pass out from casting Darkness in the assassination.
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