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				October 18th, 2006, 02:19 PM
			
			
			
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		| PhilD said:OK, Magic-wise, Helheim isn't too varied; some Air, some Death, and a little Blood. I'm not too sure how that would work vs real, human opponents, but vs the AI it seems to work fine. 
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				October 18th, 2006, 03:24 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: What\'s a good starting nation for newbies? 
 Try early or middle era abysia. Decent magic ability, fairly heavy troops, good priests, access to but not reliance upon blood and assasins. They can be quite forgiving and fun to play (try e9-10 and some blood on a pretender, keeps your fire mages blasting, makes your burning ones tougher and longer lasting and gives you access to demon knights and father illearth) |  
	
		
	
	
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				October 18th, 2006, 03:26 PM
			
			
			
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		| Endoperez said: 
 
	You forgot about the Svartalves. They open up Earth.Quote: 
	
		| PhilD said:OK, Magic-wise, Helheim isn't too varied; some Air, some Death, and a little Blood. I'm not too sure how that would work vs real, human opponents, but vs the AI it seems to work fine. 
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				October 18th, 2006, 07:39 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: What\'s a good starting nation for newbies? 
 Try Sauromatia, all their troops and mages are good. You can even do a bless. Not to mention the hydras can teach you a mean lesson about troop placement. |  
	
		
	
	
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				October 18th, 2006, 08:47 PM
			
			
			
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		| Graeme Dice said: 
 
	Any water nation that is alone under the seas can survive pretty well, as most other nations will have difficulty mounting effective attacks against you.  Jotunheim is a decent choice, as your troops are very powerful.Quote: 
	
		| Buatha said: Is there one nation ideally suited for new players to the game?  I'd hate to inadvertantly pick a frustrating or difficult nation to play.
 
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