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Old March 30th, 2008, 01:17 PM
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http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...ad.php?t=76897

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http://64.40.99.49/Multimedia/pics/1...photo/1190.jpg

the photo under the caption............"captured Iraqi Army French built Crotale SAM and T-55 MBT "


any ides what that 8 wheeled vehicle on it's side is ?

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Honestly looks more like a Roland SAM carrier of some sort. There were a number of truck mountings, but this one doesn't look familiar.

Something similar to the German FlaRakRad, just on a different chassis.

My copy of Jane's Weapon Systems 1986-87 lists Roland in Iraqi inventory, which I also realize is in the default OOB. Roland being French/German could easily have led to the confusion with Crotale.
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Probably this.

http://www.army-technology.com/proje...d/roland1.html

There are some reports that the iraqis did ask for some crotale systems but the jury is still out whether they did get them or not.
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My vote on that pic also goes to the Roland.
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Unit 546 ASTROS, availability date 2005-2020.

No such thing currently in service. To be honest it is unclear what this unit is supposed to represent. ASTROS rockets were used by truck mounted MRLS like unit 554, no fixed or towed launcher were considered. It should be deleted.

Unit 554 ASTROS-30, availability date 2005-2020.

Wrong availability date. According to SIPRI trade registers the first units were delivered in 1984. Regardless of the exact year it was definitively an 80's affair, not a post 2003 development. Its availability date should be changed to something like 1/84-4/103.

Unit 563 ASTROS 30 Bty, availability date 2005-2020.

For the same reasons stated above this unit should be deleted. Unit 560 Sajil-30 is already available in the 80's and Sajil-30 was the iraqi designation for the 127mm ASTROS rockets.

Unit 560 Sajil-30, availability date 1975-2020.

Start date should be changed to 1/84, like it is already for Sajil-40 and Sajil-60 anyway.


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https://naveodtechdiv.jeodnet.mil/IraqOIG/iraqoig.asp
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Unit 55 M40 PH Team, availability date 2005-2020.
Unit 810 M40 Recoilless, availability date 2005-2020.

Incorrect availability dates. As far it is known there are no plans to issue the new iraqi army with these weapons. The old iraqi army did however use them, starting from the 50's. I suggest a date change to, let's say, 1/57-4/103

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,821169,00.html

Iraq Country Handbook

https://naveodtechdiv.jeodnet.mil/IraqOIG/iraqoig.asp
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Unit 351 Jeep/106 RCL, availability date 2005-2020.

Incorrect availability date. As described in the previous post it should be changed to something like 1/57-4/103.
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