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April 21st, 2008, 04:36 PM
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Re: Djinnibad - Nomads and Genies
Endo I think a dervish leader could be made easily by a little different pose and a small gold dot on the turban.. but I'll leave judgement on that to your artistic talent.
OMAC I need a few more troops before I post a new version...
I just make descriptions and stats when I get a sprite really  , the cool sprites give me inspiration to type about them
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April 21st, 2008, 06:30 PM
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Re: Djinnibad - Nomads and Genies
That pic OMAC postel is a dromedar, not a camel. Camels have two bulges while dromedars have one. Forgive my bad english.
The dromedar would be more thematic for deserts and the camel for mountains, different tribes perhaps? Generally I think this nation should have more dromedars than camels. Camel should have frost resistance rather than waste survival, other way around for dromedar.
They also look different.
Dromedar:
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April 21st, 2008, 06:33 PM
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Re: Djinnibad - Nomads and Genies
Yeah but I think they actually rode dromedars and not camels
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April 21st, 2008, 06:39 PM
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Re: Djinnibad - Nomads and Genies
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Yeah but I think they actually rode dromedars and not camels
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Yep, so my point is they shouldn´t be called "camel archers" or the like. Better to call them "Beduin archer" or something. BTW I´m not sure that beduins ever used bows. I think not actually. Arab archers should probably be on foot from a historical POW.
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April 21st, 2008, 06:36 PM
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Re: Djinnibad - Nomads and Genies
Keep the good work! I feel I will probably even make Abdul Alhazred as Hero!
On pre-Islamic Arabs: they feeled very strongly about their tribes. Possibly we could make some tribe differences - along the lines of Amazons or Marverni. I just have no clear idea for now... e.g, make each tribe considered descendants of a particular genie... or something along these lines... Maybe use alternate mounts?
Another question - what other Heroes could we use? Nasreddin is from actual folklore & also close to more canonical Hydr. Old Man should be here without question (alterantely, he could be made a Rainbow-type Pretender but I'd prefer him as Hero). Alhazred I just love, though he probably shouldn't be present in every era...  What are other possibilities you would like?
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April 21st, 2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: Djinnibad - Nomads and Genies
we have dervish and nomads.. good enough for me 
and in genies we have marid and efriti
As hero's I'm thinking Alladin (stealth) and Sinbad (sailing) for EA
And prince (of persia) of course 
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April 21st, 2008, 07:08 PM
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Re: Djinnibad - Nomads and Genies
To Yivali:
Well, you are wrong - they are both camels. The one-humped one is, correctly, dromedary which is remains today only as domesticated, while the two-humped one is called Bactrian and can be sometimes met in wild. Mostly in Middle Asia deserts, as it name suggests (Bactria was a country somewhat to the east of Caspian Sea). They are different species of the same genus. Also, Bactrians are MORE OFTEN used as beasts of burden, while Dromedaries are MORE OFTEN used as mounts. However, this isn't law & they are mostly interchangeble. Quality is often more important - best riding camels can run faster than horses, while worst... but quality of caravaneers is even more important in such cases.

And you can look some historical information either at the beginning of this thread or in one called somewhat like "1001 nights"...
To Aezeal:
Considering prince of Persia - remember that before Mohammed limited Muslims to 4 wives, harems in the region could get really big.  So such princes could (& did) often be fielded by regiments!  Do you offer to make them a troop type? 
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April 22nd, 2008, 08:17 AM
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Re: Djinnibad - Nomads and Genies
Princes as units!
Perhaps something in the description of the djinn units? Or make the dervish sons of a djinn and a human wife?
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April 22nd, 2008, 02:13 PM
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Re: Djinnibad - Nomads and Genies
I've been developing a Persian/Arabian nation since the middle of 2007... shared a few messages with KO during 2007. The nation design is different, yet I'm sure there will be some similiarities because of Persian/Arabian history and its myths. Hope this doesn't cause any upset feelings.
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April 22nd, 2008, 06:22 PM
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Re: Djinnibad - Nomads and Genies
No problem... do you have sprites I can steal?
any tips for kewl creatures I could use?
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