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Old June 13th, 2008, 06:39 AM

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Default Re: Morris-Commercial C8 FAT

Hi Pat
If I might try to add some precipetous tinctures,

Ok Armoured Quad aside for the moment,
I think its pretty clear that the "Morris Commercial C8 FAT" Mk III isnt armoured all the references Ive been able to find confirm this. From a common sense point of view why would you armour the vehicle and leave the windows glass? without any armoured shutters, and if the limber, gun and gun crew arn't armoured whats the point of armouring the vehicle?

The armoured Quad Ive not seen before. It doesnt appear in any WWII pictures Ive ever seen, maybe its a post war development? or a one off? Also, it appears the rear 'tray' isnt armoured, this seems to have a canvas cover, so wether it is a field artillery tractor(FAT) is questionable. Lastly, the not inconsiderable extra weight of the armour would probably mean less ammunition for the gun and a less mobile gun tractor.

So... the armoured Quad clearly isnt the "Morris Commercial C8 FAT" so we dont need a ruler as they are two seperate vehicles. Even though the C8 may look armoured, even if it does have a steel cab, steel isnt armour.
It is still, however a beautiful vehicle.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 07:11 AM
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Default Re: Morris-Commercial C8 FAT

Good morning Chuck

I dimly seeing other references to the Quads being armoured - might have in Squad Leader (not Advanced so yes a great while back) so your observation and preliminary evidence struck me as odd. A quick look around the web and the obvious glass problem pretty much supports what you are saying.

The second photo in the link I posted is intriguing as it says a stock Quad is armoured. We all know the level of knowledge your average reporter has about military equipment and we know how easily dead wrong "hard solid facts" can propagate through written material let alone the net, it is possible that this one picture is the source of the armoured Quad "myth".

Out of curiosity rather than criticism - One of our intrepid SPWW2ers with access to a ruler and a Quad can solve the problem easily. If the body is 1/16th sheet steel - then the average quad ain't armoured, <edit>25 mm <edit> plate - well then we have an interesting mystery to investigate.

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