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June 21st, 2004, 11:20 AM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
You can rename Belphegor, too. That's not really a definitive reason: The bigger question is: Does summoning a limited-edition summon check for the presence of their existence, and the means by which they appeared is irrelevant, or is it that casting the summoning spell sets a flag of some kind? If the former, then wishing for a Belphegor clone would block the creation of Belphegor by the the normal Bind Demon Lord spell, whereas if the latter, then what does the game use to determine which is the real Belphegor and whether to enable Belphegor again when he bites it....
[ June 21, 2004, 10:22: Message edited by: Norfleet ]
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June 21st, 2004, 12:34 PM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
I tried it out and i'm surprised... a wished 'hord of hell' prevents the casting of the normal one! Even if the name isn't Belphegor. You can wish hundreds lord of hell but with only 1 of this clones in play 'bind demon lord' doesn't bring Belphegor.
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June 21st, 2004, 12:45 PM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
Wishing for another Belbhegor while one isalready in play should propably 'steal' the first one, like unique items are. But should he then come as normal unit, or as a commander with all things he had before? I can see arguments being made for both...
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June 22nd, 2004, 01:26 AM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
Well I believe this is a bug that needs to be reported.
Probably every unique summon can be wished for so on ... figure a game with tons of Air Queens or such things.
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June 21st, 2004, 05:55 PM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
if you wish several belphegor do they all then get 3 blood slaves / turn ? if you are patient enough / play a large enough map you could then get a decent blood income as an undead nation like ermor / carrion woods pangenea
i'll try it anyway soon
if it really works i agree it needs a fixing for mp but for sp it is a nice feature i think 
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June 21st, 2004, 06:18 PM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
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Originally posted by Boron:
if it really works i agree it needs a fixing for mp but for sp it is a nice feature i think
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You'd be better off wishing for blood slaves, since that way will get you 250 of them.
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June 21st, 2004, 06:34 PM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
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Originally posted by Cohen:
Well I believe this is a bug that needs to be reported.
Probably every unique summon can be wished for so on ... figure a game with tons of Air Queens or such things.
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it would probably be better than a game with tons of doom horrors.... Or at least very similar.
I have had much success with lords of hell in 1v1 combat with doom horrors when i was doing some testing however. Yes he does get his 3 blood slaves per turn, which allows you to script him to cast blood vengeance in every battle if you have lvl9 blood. Add to that the fact that he gets earth and fire magic and more slots than a doom horror and you have a pretty nasty SC.
Of course he only has 3 strategic move as compared to the Doom Horrors 8.
[ June 21, 2004, 17:35: Message edited by: Cheezeninja ]
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