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January 28th, 2006, 12:16 AM
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Re: Uh oh...what do I do now?
I always use scouts for bloodhunting. They are cheaper than anything except cheap blood mages with Sanguine Dousing Rods. If you intend to bootstrap into bloodhunting, you can collect 50 slaves with scouts, empower a national mage with synergistic paths (like Earth, Nature, Death, or Astral), forge a SDR, and hunt with him too until he's empowered enough to do useful things. Blood hunting with non-blood-mages was reduced in efficiency in patch 2.1x, but is still quite useful, considering scouts are dirt cheap. Hunting unsuccessfully does not cause much unrest, anyway, so don't be afraid to dedicate several 3000-6000 pop provinces to blood hunting, with 4-10 scouts each. You'll need to patrol at the upper end of the range... in the base game, I often use 25 indy archers and an indy commander for patrols (or low-end Foul Spawn); in a mod that sets militia pricing to very low levels, I use militia. But bear in mind that patrolling kills population much faster than blood hunting, so only do it in a very close game, a (anticipated) short game, early in the game to accelerate the bootstrapping process, with a theme that will kill people anyway, or when you choose some combination Disorder, Sloth, Death, and Hot/Cold scales that generate little income from the populace anyway.
Incidentally, scouts are still ideal blood hunters in many cases - even since non-blood-mage efficacy was reduced - because they are stealthy. Therefore, a scout transporting valuable slaves cannot be caught (when sneaking through unpatrolled territory), and a province full of hunting scouts can be set to "hide" when a pincer attack is expected... and lastly, if blood-hunting is your sole aim, empowered scouts retain their stealth and low upkeep while suddenly becoming able to use an SDR. Since blood-hunting is most economical in provinces you expect to lose (or at least, be unable to defend) rather than in your rearmost assured-income provinces, stealth and cheapness (in the event of death due to an unexpected attack) are immensely valuable to blood-hunters.
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January 29th, 2006, 05:44 AM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: Uh oh...what do I do now?
Oh thank god. I searched all the message boards for an answer...the lack of information, coupled with the fact only immortal return questions were raised, I freaked out and jumped to post without looking in game first. First time my pretender died in any game so far. Thank god there is a "Call God" option.
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January 29th, 2006, 05:49 AM
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Re: Uh oh...what do I do now?
Quote:
OG_Gleep said:
Oh thank god. I searched all the message boards for an answer...the lack of information, coupled with the fact only immortal return questions were raised, I freaked out and jumped to post without looking in game first. First time my pretender died in any game so far. Thank god there is a "Call God" option.
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No need to thank him, he did it for quite selfish reasons. 
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January 29th, 2006, 08:03 PM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: Uh oh...what do I do now?
lol
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February 10th, 2006, 02:33 AM
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Re: Uh oh...what do I do now?
I just have to say, this is what is great about Dominions. Little things that you arn't looking for suddenly taking you by surprise. Hence, the love of MP.
But, if next time you want perhaps a better idea, you can try the widely availiable Magic Item Quickref back when I was ambitious. Find it here on Arryn's Dominions site. She has kept that thing alive and up to day despite the somewhat haphazard nature of the community here. The site is also chalk full of maps, mods, and other cool things to try after the basic game/map lose their luster.
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February 10th, 2006, 12:31 PM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: Uh oh...what do I do now?
LoL I have had that happen a couple times, but never to that degree. That item list is awesome, I have printed out most of the references available...but unless you memorize the list, or look up every item when you build it, you will still get surprises hehe.
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February 11th, 2006, 12:34 AM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: Uh oh...what do I do now?
Hmmm... Aseftik's armor is cursed? I seem to have a commander of ulm with 28 prot. Any suggestions?
He was going to be used as a courier...
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