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June 29th, 2006, 11:01 AM
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Re: Machaka
I would not recommend a bless strat with Machaka. The hunter spiders are good, but expensive and capitol only.
I tend to make an SC pretender with air magic (as well as other paths) -- air a path that machaka lacks, it works well for SCs (mistform, mirror image, air shield), and you can cast wind guide along with flaming arrows for even more fun.
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June 29th, 2006, 12:20 PM
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Re: Machaka
The other fun thing to do with with the Black sorcerers is to have them cast fire shield and invulnerability and attack. When they turn into Spiders they make respectable thugs. Throw a ring of regeneration and luck pendant on them. I sent them out in pairs and they could handle most Indies and fairly large swarms of AI troops. Worked better if one had an Astral random and cast Body Ethereal.
The Black sorcerors are not sacred, but their spider forms are. I was never able to time the change and the blessing well enough to take advantage of this.
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June 29th, 2006, 01:20 PM
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Re: Machaka
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The Black sorcerors are not sacred, but their spider forms are. I was never able to time the change and the blessing well enough to take advantage of this.
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One of the strangest sentenences about Dominions I have read in a long time, and one that fits the gameplay perfectly. Even if you caught my mistake.
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June 30th, 2006, 07:07 PM
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Re: Machaka
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The other fun thing to do with with the Black sorcerers is to have them cast fire shield and invulnerability and attack. When they turn into Spiders they make respectable thugs. Throw a ring of regeneration and luck pendant on them. I sent them out in pairs and they could handle most Indies and fairly large swarms of AI troops. Worked better if one had an Astral random and cast Body Ethereal.
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Sending out two commanders together is a really bad morale setup. If one commander dies or routs, the other commander will immediately rout regardless of damage. If you are sending out commander-only forces, the safest morale bet is to send only one. In that case it either fights to the death, or routs, but it wont impede any other units.
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July 2nd, 2006, 12:11 PM
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Re: Machaka
Thanks for the reminder, size determines the supply usage. As Ermor is on the border, I need the supply items in any case, but twice as much with the spider armies.
Isn't it wonderful how fast holy units get into the hall of fame after a successful brush with Ermor? The kill rate is huge!
As for the poor PD, I may have been lucky, but have found it to be reasonable so far. Twice routing a decent invasion force of giants was a pleasant surprise. That said, I will be trying for Mechanical Milita later in the game, it really makes life simpler.
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July 3rd, 2006, 09:16 AM
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Re: Machaka
fighting ermor give commanders a charcoal shield, will eat the undead. A black servant with full black plate, helm, girdle of might and possibly quickness boots+lucky coin dosnt cost much, can handle practically any pd (sneak him behind enemy front line and flank with servants while your main army crushes him), is hard to kill and does reasonable damage (i suggest horror helm personally if possible)
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June 29th, 2006, 04:41 PM
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Re: Machaka
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I would not recommend a bless strat with Machaka. The hunter spiders are good, but expensive and capitol only.
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That's odd, cause I do recommend a bless strat with Machaka. Nature 9 and one of E4 or E9 or W9 or F4 or F9 or S4. Nature 9 also allows Mass Protection, Relief, and Mass Regeneration... while E* allows Legions of Steel. The combination of super-high protection, regeneration, and reinvigoration make Black Hunters very survivable, and the mounts almost invincible to anything save lightning and MR-save spells. You only need a few.
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June 29th, 2006, 05:03 PM
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Re: Machaka
Summon some ivy kings and you get all the same spells, no need for a dual 9 bless.
Although, you can beat the AI regardless 
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June 29th, 2006, 07:22 PM
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Re: Machaka
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Saber Cherry said:invincible to anything save lightning and MR-save spells. You only need a few.
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Oh, but don't the two later on rule the battlefield?
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June 29th, 2006, 11:53 PM
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Re: Machaka
Yes, but - something like 4 N9 hunters can clear most independent provinces. That makes it very feasible to expand quickly, and then work on longer term "solutions". Also, if you make a hunter lord your prophet, you can wind up with a very sweet early game mini-SC if he gets lucky with the HoF bonus, at which point you toss luck/ethereality/fire shield items on him if you didn't already.
Also - those black servant thugs? I think I was one of the first to discover 'em (surprised even Norfleet *grin*), and with heavy enough armor I had them successfully take 6 to 8 provinces with indies 7-8. Not sure if it's still possible with the CB mod, but the armored black servant is still pretty potent with a solid bless if you prophetize (or do stone boots/shroud of the saint).
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