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Old October 14th, 2006, 05:20 PM

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I tried R'lyeh for my first game and was SHOCKED how strong it is. I took a Dominion/Bless strategy and I had units coming out my ears. I was having serious trouble building enough leaders to command them all, and basically stopped building troops after a while. There was one small island with two provinces and in 15 turns it generated about 200 freespawn. It felt like playing Ermor with the AI unable to recruit priests - I had that much. I had about as many troops as 5 AI's put together.

My biggest problem was what to do with all the freespawned triton dreamers. I had a stack of about 150 wandering around - I was trying to get them killed off but they beat a Kracken/Sea Troll independents. I was maneuvering them to the last ocean independent and if that failed I guess I'd just have an ever-growing stack of them chewing up supplies (do they have upkeep). I couldn't figure any way to kill them.

Has anybody checked Gateway for functionality? I had a Starspawn put on a Crown of Command and try to gate all those island freespawns over. He went over but they stayed. No way to check the prior turn to make sure I'd cast "Gateway" but I'd swear that's what his icon said.
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Old October 14th, 2006, 05:31 PM
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Gateway style spells are broken at the moment.

Late R'lyeh is powerful and the pop death doesn't seem to be that bad to me. I also had leadership problems, and then freespawns would stack on huge piles and starve.
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Old October 14th, 2006, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: Hilarious R\'lyeh Dreamlands moment (SPOILER)

The freespawn masses do let you wage a war of attrition. While without backup from real troops, they'll die in droves (archer-heavy nations in particular can carve them up -- if you're fighting Jomon samurai with just dreamers and madmen, you can expect heavy losses due to large differences in equipment and training...), but there will be replacements.

Blade wind would also be ugly, methinks. But massed archers are an obvious weakness.

Be careful not to let your freespawn starve your illithids into disease. The supply allocation routines are non-deterministic, if memory serves.
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Illithid Lords going insane really hurts..Heck of a time keeping everyone moving with even them going insane.

And the freespawn are pretty horrible vs nations tho the hybrds with the armor piercing tenactles arent so bad imho but they pretty much die in droves.. 400 vs 80... Losing 200 or more units was common and that where battles i won with em.. I mostly used the free spawn armies as scouts and raiders throw em at the enm to see the makeup of the enm and hopefully do some damage. I didnt really care if they lived or not might as well disrupt the other dudes income and armies.


And hard to get nature magic plus large armies with population declining supplying armies was fun.

But was my funnist game so far.
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