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Old October 24th, 2006, 05:23 PM

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Default Re: Broken Nations

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It is pretty simple. Here is a situation. 5 FFA blitz. You are with Niefelheim, and 2 provinces away, there is Mitclan with an uber bless build. You think that you will survive turn 8-10? If Mictlan is rushing you are pretty much dead. The mictlan troops will totally outnumber the N giants, and will massacre them. Now you understand that what did I meant on "massing sacreds"?
I think you may be a little too sour from losing to qm on that note ... Qm is an excellent player and you are most likely dead if you're 2 provinces away from him anyway. I wager your build was not prepared for an uber bless which is what you lost to, not the "massed sacreds". I got attacked with 122 Vans, one game. THAT'S a massed Sacred army! XD If you are playing a small blitz against Mictlan or S&A, you should be prepared with an awakened fire res Thug/SC with your build. If not, you're pretty much asking for it. And should I point out, you can just as easily "mass" woodsmen as well to equal numbers if I recall ... You shouldn't single out Mictlan and S&A as the mass sacred kings, especially not S&A which was my point of contention. They really don't mass any more effectively than any other sacred nations. In fact, I find Mictlan's and S&A nations both pretty ideally balanced. Though the jags might still need a bit of tweaking ...

PS. Niefel is also a bit countered by the f9/w9 bless since they're prone to catching on fire.

Like I've said it was a 5 FFA not a 1v1. Mictlan's early rush is just almost impossible to beat without a specific build. You won't make a specific build against XY nation/player in an FFA game. I know that QM is an excellent player, but this has nothing to do with the fact, that Mictlan can field much more sacreds than most of other nations. Since their sacreds are good and cheap, with a proper bless they are rolling. In a couple of turns you can have a small army from those sacreds. So if you have 30 sacreds with nation X, and like 10 with nation Y, in the same time, we can talk about massing if you ask me.

Just for the record, I've also used rush tactic against many players in the blitzes with certain nations, and needless to say that they couldn't do anything. This all happens because of the imbalances of sacreds/blessings.
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