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April 12th, 2007, 01:37 PM
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Re: Martial arts nations...
Holy crap. I just realised I'm going to HAVE to make zebra/gazelle/alpaca/camel cavalry now. Seriously.
Well I was planning on making some kind of machaka mixed with north africa thing in the future, so I guess it's all cool.
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April 12th, 2007, 03:09 PM
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Re: Martial arts nations...
That is, in fact *exactly* what I had in mind.
I'd originally called those units "Cataphracts" rather than "Knights" but decided the terminology was too confusing. Whada ya think?
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April 12th, 2007, 09:10 PM
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Re: Martial arts nations...
Cataphracts would be fine. I think a lot of people would know the term, or instantly figure out what it meant. Or you could just use 'heavy cavalry' or 'shock cavalry' or something.
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April 12th, 2007, 10:25 PM
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Re: Martial arts nations...
That's not the problem, but "lacking in cataphractly virtue" just doesn't quite cut it. There is an equivalent Persian concept but it applies to warriors in general. Part of it is that it isn't strictly Asyrrian, it's got all sorts of evil influences from other source material.
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April 12th, 2007, 10:30 PM
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Re: Martial arts nations...
Well you can change the description I'm sure. There are thousands of ways of suggesting that they're a cruel and ill disciplined lot. You could mention that they've grown spoiled and decadent what with all the slaves and young virgins (boys and girls) and would much rather die of sex-related diseases than a big sword through the face in the middle of a battle.
Maybe "The concept of virtue is as foreign to them as mercy"
Something like that.
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April 14th, 2007, 07:07 AM
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Re: Martial arts nations...
Attached is my take on the 'False knight' / cataphract / evil cowardly heavy cavalry / thingy.
The reason there are 4 pics (8 including attack sprites) is simple. I made a gold one, changed the shield and couldn't decide if it looked better or not, then quickly made 'silver/iron/steel' versions as well. I have no idea which would be best for your purposes, although that much iron or steel barding kinda wouldn't make sense in the early era, so I'd guess the gold/bronze one is better.
I really like 'em. I'm quite excited about a future matchup between evil cowardly persian-esque Padmassans and equally evil but suicidally brave spartan-esque Argans.
Let me know what you think. Any of you :]
And yes, I know they don't exactly fit a description you gave, other than being assyrian(ish).
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April 14th, 2007, 09:38 AM
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Re: Martial arts nations...
They look good, and I do prefer the bronze version - both aesthetically and for historicity. I should probably fiddle with the units equipment somewhat. I prefer the better-defined shield (on the lower right.)
Should I have three versions for the three different types of armament? The lance is always the same, and independent heavy cavalary always use the same picture regardless of whether they have swords or maces or whatever as secondary armament.
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