Ug, Vans!

Dedas · #1 May 5th, 2007, 01:57 AM

Earth meld is almost obligatory if you're going to use the old ones. Otherwise they won't hit anything and will be hit by anything.

jutetrea · #2 May 5th, 2007, 02:27 AM

haven't confirmed it myself but I think it was mentioned that the 1 pt of damage from freezing mist drops glamour. no clue if its true.

Jazzepi · #3 May 5th, 2007, 02:41 AM

I'm using the heavy infantry. I have very good production scales, and I found a mine right next to my capital

Jazzepi

MaxWilson · #4 May 5th, 2007, 02:57 AM

I've never tried Rust Mist, but if you have the paths for it I expect it's just as good as Destruction, which is to say it's good if you don't care about friendly fire hits. Chaff + archers vs. expensive vans sounds like a situation where you don't care about friendly fire.

Edit: And don't forget that you have access to Strength of Giants and Weapons of Sharpness, too. WoS is good if you *are* worried about friendly fire (I hate it when I Destruction my own troops)--one cast should cover most of your army and a second one in the first round of battle will cover PD, too.

-Max

Endoperez · #5 May 5th, 2007, 03:47 AM

Rust Mist is nice, but the problem with it is that you have to hit the target once to break its armor. Against Vanir, that can be hard.

Earth Meld is VERY good. Use it to the full effect.

Statues are very good: they get extra hp when in Agartha's dominion. Remember that magical creatures with "do not heal" heal whenever they are in a province with a lab (repairs, etc).

Finally, as of last patch Glamour doesn't affect missiles or spells. Getting rid of the Glamour will help a lot, so mass those independent archers, or even just spam Fire Darts and/or Stone Shards, anything with large number of effects. I'd imagine that Blade Wind is ideal.

Sombre · #6 May 5th, 2007, 07:15 AM

Ug ug! Ug van no good ug!

Ug bash van man good!

UG UG UG.

Dedas · #7 May 5th, 2007, 07:43 AM

To bash or not to bash, is not the question.

jutetrea · #8 May 5th, 2007, 12:18 PM

hmm, cool. Didn't know about the no heal being able to heal in labs.

I'd think pretty much any of the "cloud" spells would be useful for dropping glamour now that it doesn't affect magic. So entire battlefield spells, clouds, spells with multiple affects or massed archers should work.

Blade wind change for 3.08.. reduced # o e... is that # of effects? Has anyone noticed the change? severe? Blade wind used to be THE spell vs low armored units IMLO.

Shovah32 · #9 May 5th, 2007, 12:23 PM

The spell seems pretty much the same although the effects have dropped a bit. You also probably get less extra blades for a higher level mage(which makes my E9 dom10 cyclops cry).